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Author: Lala
Date: 2004-01-15 22:31
Hi,
I'm working on Brahms Sonata Op 120 #2 and my teacher keeps talking about his favorite recording by Franklin Cohen. I'm trying to find a copy with no luck. So far I've learned that it was released in 1993 under the London/Decca label. I think 430 149 is the catalog number. I've been to quite a few of the big chains online and offline with no success, including hbdirect and iclassics. I did find a few sites that seem to specialize in out-of-print recordings: www.yankeemusic.com and www.CDtrackdown.com but nothing yet. Any thoughts on where else to look? I have the Shifrin and Wright recordings already, but would really like to get this additional perspective. I'm a returning adult (serious) amateur. This sight is great! Thanks in advance for your help.
Lala
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Author: BobD
Date: 2004-01-16 14:00
Sorry I can't help...and I know how frustrating it can be.
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Author: Lala
Date: 2004-01-16 20:11
A quick update - www.cdtrackdown.com found this for me. Very pricey and a bit of a wait, but they came thru. Haven't decided if I want to order, but thought I'd give credit, where credit is due.
Lala
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2004-01-16 20:42
Lala - If I were looking for a "rare bird" like you are, I'd make it the title of a new thread for here, asking if someone, having it, would copy it for you on a cassette or even burn a CD. Who knows what might transpire?? Don
[ Lala knows that we can't make those kinds of requests here, Don. Almost all recordings are still under copyright. Mark C. ]
Thanx, Mark, Don
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Author: hans
Date: 2004-01-16 20:50
Don,
My knowledge of copyright rules is close to zilch, but wouldn't copying a recording be a violation? If so, wouldn't this kind of request compromise the BB?
Hans
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2004-01-16 21:08
Hans, A violation of these difficult-to-interpret "rules and court decisions" is possible, however, my thots were of a single, NON-Commercial copy of a possibly-expired copyrighted recording, that would be either permissable, or not worth legal pursuit. Your point is well worth consideration. If Mark C/ GBK should like to delete this, my feelings will not be injured. TKS, Don
Thanx, Mark, Don
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2004-01-16 23:16
Don Berger wrote:
> Hans, A violation of these difficult-to-interpret "rules and
> court decisions" is possible, however, my thots were of a
> single, NON-Commercial copy of a possibly-expired copyrighted
> recording, that would be either permissable, or not worth legal
> pursuit.
Commercial or non-commercial, a copy of an in-copyright recording isn't legal. The only difference between the two comes in the assessing of damages (if any).
Recording copyrights are incredibly difficult to assess if they're viable or not, since there were non-uniform rules in the US (state-by-state) and a real tangled mess. The rule of thumb is that all recordings are copyrighted in the US until 2067.
The rule of thumb here is to never offer or solicit copying.
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Author: Liquorice
Date: 2004-01-17 06:36
Is this the recording with Franklin Cohen and Vladimir Ashkenazy? I heard it once and was shocked at how bad Cohen's intonation is on this recording. He sounds flat most of the time. Ashkenazy's piano playing is great though!
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Author: bulldoggy1
Date: 2004-01-17 23:07
The Reginald Kell recording (with Joel Rosen, piano) is on CD, MCAD2-9837. This is a lovely recording.
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Author: John J. Moses
Date: 2004-01-18 15:18
Why not trying to contact Frank Cohen c/o The Cleveland Orchestra?
He may have extra copies for sale, or know where his hard to find recordings can be had. Just a thought.
BTW: He's a very nice guy, who offers help to many in need.
JJM
Légère Artist
Clark W. Fobes Artist
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Author: Douglas
Date: 2004-01-18 16:28
Lala, if this is your teacher's favorite recording of the Brahms, why doesn't he/she let you listen to it. Seems there could be a bit of help closer to you.
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Author: Lala
Date: 2004-01-19 17:27
Thank you for all of your responses. The one that makes the most sense is, of course, to just borrow it from my teacher (thanks, Douglas). He actually offered it up originally, but continuously forgets to bring it to lessons. I didn't realize what a project it would be to find it on my own. Kind of like the idea of reaching out to FC directly as well (thanks, JJM). That never would have occurred to me. Liquorice, yes - you're thinking of the right recording. The point of me listening to that recording in particular is to help get my legato to the next level and my teacher thinks that FC's legato is superlative. I'd really like to just hear it and form my own opinion. In any case, I appreciate all the suggestions...
Lala
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Author: diz
Date: 2004-01-19 20:06
John J Moses ... there's something wonderful about the sound of the Cleveland Orchestra ... quite unique, and I hope it doesn't change with homogenity (sp?).
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Author: John J. Moses
Date: 2004-01-20 02:28
Hi Diz:
Yes, the Cleveland Orchestra has a wonderful sound. There have been many conductors there over the years, and the orchestra has maintained a very high standard of excellence. I believe the fine younger players coming into that exceptional orchestra will only add to it's luster, not detract. The Cleveland Orchestra, like all orchestras, will change with the times, but will remain one of our cultural treasures.
JJM
Légère Artist
Clark W. Fobes Artist
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