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 B4 - G4 - B4 Transition
Author: Mark P. Jasuta 
Date:   2004-01-16 01:03

Hi all,
Number Five need input...Wouldn't you like to be a pepper too?
My daughter has part of a passage that goes B4 - G4 - B4. They are 1/16th notes in 6/8 time 116 bpm.
I'm looking for an easy way to do this. (Using the alternate fingering for G4 (open G) provides some relief.) Any other Ideas. All responses will be appreciated.

Best Regards
Mark

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 Re: B4 - G4 - B4 Transition
Author: Dee 
Date:   2004-01-16 01:12

The right hand fingers used in playing the B4 can stay in place without compromising the G4. Matter of fact, it often makes the G4 sound better.

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 Re: B4 - G4 - B4 Transition
Author: Hank Lehrer 
Date:   2004-01-16 01:23

Dee is right on. Keeping the RH on with the B4 on the right side should make this a fairly easy transition.

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 Re: B4 - G4 - B4 Transition
Author: JMcAulay 
Date:   2004-01-16 06:40

How about throat B4? A and top side key. Check it out on your Clarinet. A, speaker, and 2nd side key may have better pitch; or maybe the first and second side keys. Which is best depends on the instrument.

Regards,
John

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 Re: B4 - G4 - B4 Transition
Author: EEBaum 
Date:   2004-01-16 06:57

Whether to use the throat fingering depends on the context. What notes does the lick come from / go to?

-Alex
www.mostlydifferent.com

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 Re: B4 - G4 - B4 Transition
Author: sfalexi 
Date:   2004-01-16 10:45

Throat B4 would probably be best used if it's a very fast passage (almost a tremolo) and it's in the background and isn't part of a main melody line. Also if it doesn't resolve at the end to above the break. If it's supposed to be played out and very noticeable (or ends above the break), I'd use the normal fingerings and just practice getting those fingers down in sync and as quickly as possible to make the transition seamless. It can be tough, but is doable with practice.

Alexi

(And was that a reference to "Short Circuit" above? Cause that's a great movie!)

US Army Japan Band

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 Re: B4 - G4 - B4 Transition
Author: JMcAulay 
Date:   2004-01-16 17:25

Hey, folks, I didn't say "Use throat B4 or I'll slash your tires!" It was just "How about throat B4?" Many players are unaware that there even is such a thing. Sometimes it works fine, ometimes it doesn't. Use your own good judgment in selecting any fingering.

Alexi, I don't limit the use of throat B4 (or C5) to such limited instances. While it is difficult to go from there to almost any note in the Clarion register, and to many in the Chalumeau, I find nothing wrong with either one as a terminal note. I have never observed anyone in my audience cringing, muttering "Good grief, that incompetent klutz is ending on a throat C5!" Of course, your audiences may well be (and likely are) more sophisticated than mine.  :)

Regards,
John

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 Re: B4 - G4 - B4 Transition
Author: Dee 
Date:   2004-01-16 23:12

Actually I use these "trill" fingerings anytime there is a fast run that otherwise stays out of the clarion register.

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 Re: B4 - G4 - B4 Transition
Author: sfalexi 
Date:   2004-01-17 00:14

JMcAuley,

Apparently you haven't heard MY throat B4 then . . .

If you have, you would understand why I do have to limit it!

Alexi

US Army Japan Band

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 Re: B4 - G4 - B4 Transition
Author: JMcAulay 
Date:   2004-01-17 04:20

Sorry to read about that, Alexi. Also sorry for not recalling what you play. Sounds like repair of your stick is in order.

Dee, that sounds okay to me. I use them for long tones, too.. Those 'way up there throat tones bend pretty easily, thus they have to be done carefully -- which should not be a problem.

Regards,
John

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 Re: B4 - G4 - B4 Transition
Author: sfalexi 
Date:   2004-01-17 12:56

JMcAuley,

I still am awaiting the arrival of a new setup. Instrument, possibly new mouthpiece as well (testing out Greg Smith and a Dave Spiegelthal refaced MP against my current DS refaced. To the victor of the three goes the honor of being atop of my new clarinet)

Alexi

US Army Japan Band

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 Re: B4 - G4 - B4 Transition
Author: JMcAulay 
Date:   2004-01-17 19:01

Alexi: How nice to hear you're expecting. Can't wait to hear if it's a Smith or a Spiegelthal.

Too bad ultrasound won't help in such cases.

Regards,
John

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