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Author: bud
Date: 2004-01-12 10:23
Could some one please help me.
I have found a penzel mueller wooden clarinet for sale.
The problem is I know absolutely NOTHING about the brand. Yes really nothing.
So......... Any thoughts?? Are they good, bad or indifferent??
The model is an 'empire state'.
ANY thoughts would help me here.......
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Author: David Peacham
Date: 2004-01-12 11:46
Have you tried searching this board for penzel mueller? There seems to be plenty of info if you look for it.
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If there are so many people on this board unwilling or unable to have a civil and balanced discussion about important issues, then I shan't bother to post here any more.
To the great relief of many of you, no doubt.
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Author: Synonymous Botch
Date: 2004-01-12 11:49
Older design, made until the 1950's.
So, after a complete overhaul, you will have an instrument that may not play as well as a new Yamaha YCL-20.
(And do a search, like Peach said -'kay?)
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2004-01-12 13:46
I still have my first good clarinet, a 1920's PM Full Boehm 20/7, cracked, pegged/banded, but quite playable and comparable to my 1933 Selmer F B. A good friend, plays his "Artist" model 17/6 [keys/rings in case you dont know of this method of description], prob. very close to yours, in our community band, and wont consider a newer cl, tho IMHO, he needs a better one!! I suggest you consider a Selmer or LeBlanc of the 1950 + vintage for more satisfactory intonation.. Luck, Don
Thanx, Mark, Don
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Author: bud
Date: 2004-01-12 14:48
Thanks guys.
I did search (and find).
Still umming and ah-ing a bit - the opinion on these seems to vary quite substantially!!!
Tossing up between a YCL-22 and the PM. Never played a 'plastic' although I am aware that wood doesn't automatically equal 'better'.
The idea is to get a 'now' clarinet - crummy or whatever, so I can play it and then save up - because that takes a LONG time in this household - for a GOOD clarinet.
And for the GOOD clarinet, I will most likely stick to the 'big 4'. Actually, I'm lying. I learnt a long time ago on a Leblanc and I want one. SOMEONE in my family has one and he has given me some money towards my own!! (maybe to keep me away from his - smart man). So I will be saving for the best Leblanc I can find, but it will take me quite a while......
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Author: David Spiegelthal ★2017
Date: 2004-01-12 14:49
Despite some of the warnings posted above, Penzel-Mueller and G. Pruefer were the two American makers (besides Conn for about one decade) that made high-quality clarinets during the first half of the 20th Century --- so your P-M might actually be pretty good after a decent overhaul -- don't rule it out altogether.
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Author: bud
Date: 2004-01-12 14:51
well........
as they say
"try anything once"
twice if I like it!!!!!!!!!!!
After all, I am trying clarinet again after being a trumpet player for a very long time!!
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2004-01-12 19:23
Mark, is this OK?? Bud, your post reminds me of a story [long-winded, perhaps], with the punch line, "Your only son I presume?" Don
Thanx, Mark, Don
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Author: Tom A
Date: 2004-01-13 02:10
Can't help you, Bud, other than to recommend a search. I've done one for their bass clarinet and found a lot of info on their B flats instead.
I just had to come here to say that the title of your topic is one of the funniest I've seen in the year I've been posting.
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