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 "un-gummed" cigarette paper
Author: wjk 
Date:   2004-01-04 10:52

One of the letters in the new issue of The Clarinet talks about pad maintainence using "un-gummed cigarette paper." What exactly is this? Does this mean the paper has no glue? I checked some cigarette paper and one brand said "Arabic gum" on it. Does this mean the paper is made with "gum"? Should such paper not be used for pads/clarinets?
Thanks---

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 Re: "un-gummed" cigarette paper
Author: jo.clarinet 
Date:   2004-01-04 12:55

Doesn't it just mean that you should tear/cut the licky-sticky strip off before you use the cigarette paper, so there's no chance of it inadvertently making the pad sticky?

Joanna Brown

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 Re: "un-gummed" cigarette paper
Author: clarinetwife 
Date:   2004-01-04 13:39

Some cigarette paper does not have the sticky strip on it to begin with. That is convenient to use if you can find it. Tearing it off would probably work too.

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 Re: "un-gummed" cigarette paper
Author: John J. Moses 
Date:   2004-01-04 15:00

FYI:
Yamaha and some other instrument companies make "ungummed" paper for water removal from pads and tone-holes. The paper is also good for sticky pads and noisy pads that are annoying. Paper with gum is a problem because the glue can stick to a wet pad or tone-hole and cause more problems, so avoid "gummed" paper unless you can remove the gummed strip.
"Powder paper" is also available from several sources, and is very useful for very sticky pads, dirty pads, or corks.

JJM
Légère Artist
Clark W. Fobes Artist

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 Re: "un-gummed" cigarette paper
Author: sdr 
Date:   2004-01-04 17:34

A similar item is available from hairdresser supply places as roller end papers -- hundreds for a couple of dollars.

-sdr

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 Re: "un-gummed" cigarette paper
Author: theclarinetist 
Date:   2004-01-04 18:04

I think it's funny when you go to a gas station or wherever and ask for cigarette paper for you clarinet, and the worker looks at you with that "sure it's for a clarinet..." type look. And sometimes they won't sell it to you if you're under 18. Just kind of funny (or so I thought)

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 Re: "un-gummed" cigarette paper
Author: Ray 
Date:   2004-01-04 18:20

I never found cigarette paper to be too useful for getting water out of a tone hole - not absorbent enough.

Now I use a piece of paper shop towel, by Scott, I think. These are basically very thick paper towels, blue in color, that come on a roll just like the kitchen paper towels. They are closer to felt blotters in thickness and texture than they are to kitchen paper towels.

You can get them at Home Depot.

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 Re: "un-gummed" cigarette paper
Author: clarinetwife 
Date:   2004-01-04 19:54

Author: theclarinetist
"I think it's funny when you go to a gas station or wherever and ask for cigarette paper for you clarinet, and the worker looks at you with that "sure it's for a clarinet..." type look."

You should have seen the "what you smokin'?" looks I would get when I would buy a whole box for the music store where I worked. I did so because I had a number of customers who were members of a rather strict denomination who wouldn't be caught asking for it anywhere else!

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 Re: "un-gummed" cigarette paper
Author: Brenda 
Date:   2004-01-05 11:37

Packages of these papers come with the Zonda Classico reeds. These are MUCH more absorbant than the hairdresser's roller end papers, will pull up moisture instantly and will also dry within minutes. I double them over for added strength, and use them over and over, therefore I have a bundle of these packages left over. I'm giving them away.

It's better to keep your instrument from getting dried out and to swab fairly often, and that way the water runs straight through instead of getting stuck in the tone holes. (Some good advice has been given in previous posts about how this can be done.) But when the inevitable happens anyway, these "woodwind drying papers" are great. I've tried the other ones that hair dressers use, and they're far less effective by comparison.



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 Re: "un-gummed" cigarette paper
Author: clarinetmama 
Date:   2004-01-05 21:09

You could really impress people by sticking the largest denomination bill that you have in your wallet. However as dirty as money is probably not a good idea, although isn't money more cloth then paper? I seem to recall in the 1980's the statistics that said most money had cocaine on it. Or was that an urban myth?

Jean



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 Re: "un-gummed" cigarette paper
Author: theclarinetist 
Date:   2004-01-06 00:56

people always say "use a dollar". I've found that dollars are anything BUT absorbent from my own personal experience. I might as well stick a piece of wax-paper in there!!!! I guess whatever works for you is great though.

DH

ps - I know you were joking, but it reminding me that dollars aren't as good (at least for me) as everyone says

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 Re: "un-gummed" cigarette paper
Author: Mike Blinn 
Date:   2004-01-06 06:35

May I suggest the CLUB cigarette paper made in Italy by S.D. Modiano? It contains no glycerine, no chloride, and certainly no gum. It weighs 10 grams per square meter.

It should be available at your local head shop for about two dollars a pack. It absorbs water very well, and I always carry a pack in my clarinet case.

Mike Blinn



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 Re: "un-gummed" cigarette paper
Author: sfalexi 
Date:   2004-01-06 07:22

Never in my wildest dreams would I have thought of people being recommended to a head shop on the clarinet newsboard.

As for myself, I have been referred to the Yamaha papers (which I was given a few of) and they worked very well. Yes you can reuse them since they dry out. Making them last much longer than you'd think.

And swab out every now and then when you get the chance. This will help delay the need for those papers.

As for the cocaine in the dollar bill issue . . .
http://www.millikin.edu/chemistry/cocaine/cocaine.html
http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v97.n425.a06.html

Alexi

US Army Japan Band

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