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 I need it quiet
Author: SVSorna05 
Date:   2003-12-26 03:19

Ok I have an old E&S as most of you already know, I'm getting this clicking sound on my left hand F#/C# key. the key is moving so it has a lot of extra play and is really annoying. I have some cork here that I can cut and use. But I was wondering where the best place to put this? I need to remove the extra play in the key and kill the click before it kills me. thanx alot
-Dain-

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 Re: I need it quiet
Author: Vytas 
Date:   2003-12-26 03:59

You're getting this clicking sound for two reasons:

1. Cork is missing from the RIGHT hand F/C key (on the crow-foot).

2. Loose connection from the LEFT hand F#/C# key to the RIGHT hand F#/C# key. Fish-skin is traditionally used to silent these keys, but several layers of pluming tape can be used as temporally fix.



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 Re: I need it quiet
Author: Clarence 
Date:   2003-12-26 06:02

In addition to Vytas's sugestions, make sure the bar that crosses over to the left side is not hitting the Left C shaft.



Post Edited (2003-12-26 06:03)

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 Re: I need it quiet
Author: jbutler 2017
Date:   2003-12-26 12:09

Could be that the E/B key is hitting the clarinet body below where the LH lever fits into the hole. I use teflon tubing on these linkages and adjust height by maticulously fitting ultrasuede,cork, or cork-ultrasuede combination to get the E/B and F/C levers adjusted level to one another. Swedging of the lever key can elimanate some lateral play also.

jbutler

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 Re: I need it quiet
Author: Hank Lehrer 
Date:   2003-12-26 12:22

Hi John,

Your ultra-suede idea is terrific (I suspect you did that on my Buffet recently, right). The height of the LH levers brings up an interesting thing though about the crow's foot and the actual height of the pad on the RH C and B. If there is too much cork on any of the LH stops for the assembly, the RH pad will not be high enough and make the clarinet a bit stuffy in the D/C and G/F range. I suspect that the venting of the C particularily and to some extent, the B, is critical. Is my thinking correct?

HRL

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 Re: I need it quiet
Author: jbutler 2017
Date:   2003-12-26 18:18

Hank,

You are correct. Pad height is a critical part of the adjustment. Pad height can be corrected by using thick, med thick, or thin pads and combination of cork. I use thin pads by Pisoni and float them in. I then adjust by different combinations of cork and or ultrasuede.

jbutler

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 Re: I need it quiet
Author: Hank Lehrer 
Date:   2003-12-26 21:53

Hi John,

Thanks for the confirmation. When one thinks of the mechanics of the those lower levers and keys, the whole arrangement takes on a Rube Goldberg (for those not familiar, Rube Goldberg machines used a very complicated mechanism to perform a simple task - fun to look at) perspective.

HRL



Post Edited (2003-12-26 23:17)

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 Re: I need it quiet
Author: sfalexi 
Date:   2003-12-27 01:10

Quote:

(for those not familiar, Rube Goldberg machines used a very complicated mechanism to perform a simple task - fun to look at)
I just had to laugh when I saw this. I have no idea who that is, but have this sneaky suspicion that if I had an engineering degree I would know . . . I just love the various analogies and comparison's I see on the board. Anything from other instruments, to cars, to Rube Goldberg! Each making sense to some, but not to others.

Alexi

US Army Japan Band

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 Re: I need it quiet
Author: Hank Lehrer 
Date:   2003-12-27 10:51

SFalexi,

Here is a site for you to view.

http://www.rube-goldberg.com/

HRL

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 Re: I need it quiet
Author: Synonymous Botch 
Date:   2003-12-27 12:30

Never heard of Rube Goldberg?


Betcha can name every actor on the WB...

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 Re: I need it quiet
Author: Hank Lehrer 
Date:   2003-12-27 13:48

From the website I mentioned above.

"Best known for his "INVENTIONs" cartoons, which use a string of outlandish tools, people, plants, and steps to accomplish everyday simple tasks in the most complicated way, Pulitzer Prize winning cartoonist Rube Goldberg's drawings point out that people are often overwhelmed by over complicating their lives."


Sounds like Parkinson's First Law "work expands to fill the time available"


HRL

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