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 Buffet R-13 Green Line?????
Author: Clay 
Date:   2003-12-24 19:13

Hey

I was browsing and saw a Buffet R-13 Green Line. What does Green Line mean???

Thank You

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 Re: Buffet R-13 Green Line?????
Author: sfalexi 
Date:   2003-12-24 19:47

http://www.musicgroup.com/Instruments/Database/InstrumentsDetail.asp?LB_Category=all&LB_Typ=10&LB_Brand=2&IN_ID=108

General consesus amongt previous posts I've seen is that they play just as well as any "normal" buffet. Plus they have the added factor of being pretty much crack-proof. Definitely worth looking into if you want a very good, weather-resistant clarinet. Do some searches on the board about them. There's been LOTS of fun discussions.

Alexi

US Army Japan Band

Post Edited (2003-12-24 19:59)

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 Re: Buffet R-13 Green Line?????
Author: LeWhite 
Date:   2003-12-25 04:54

Crack-proof maybe, however, and Oboist I know who has a Green Line dropped his, only from his chair, and it completely split in two. Some have trouble with Green Lines, others don't. Like anything really. Go figure!



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 Re: Buffet R-13 Green Line?????
Author: Gordon (NZ) 
Date:   2003-12-25 12:17

With clarinets we tend to assume that 'split' means a crack lengthwise, along and associated with the grain, and not caused by any accident. That is rather different from a break across the instrument, caused by player carelessness.

Presumably there is no grain with Greenline.

Was the 'split' lengthwise, or was it a 'break' (not following grain) ACROSS the body - something that can happen to any polymer-based instrument, especially at a weak-point such as the beginning of the centre tenon. This could happen to any instrument, no matter what the material, during an accident.

It would be nice if Buffet managed to have this area especially strengthened by a concentration of their 5% carbon fibre at this location, to make it significantly stronger at this is location than timber is.

If you sufficiently force ANY material, it will eventually fail. If a TIMBER oboe fell from chair height and landed in such a way that it contacted the floor only by the bell and the reed-receiver area, then it would quite likely break at the centre tenon too.

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 Re: Buffet R-13 Green Line?????
Author: BobD 
Date:   2003-12-26 21:01

It would be interesting to know just what B&H marketing was thinking about when they came up with that name. Some will conjure up the idea that the material is "green" i.e. uncured or that it's got something to do with saving the forests. Personally, I'm inclined to think they could have come up with something more appropriate. To me it means high priced plastic horn.......not that there's anything wrong with that.

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 Re: Buffet R-13 Green Line?????
Author: Mark Charette 
Date:   2003-12-26 21:49

BobD wrote:

> It would be interesting to know just what B&H marketing was
> thinking about when they came up with that name.

Green = environmentally friendly (reuse, recycle). I thought it was obvious, but I guess not.

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