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Author: jo.clarinet
Date: 2003-12-14 06:16
I've just bought a couple of clarinets off ebay, and I think they're going to be fine because I've done as much background checking as I can, and was lucky enough to be able to have one of them tested out by an impartial clarinet teacher who lives near where the vendor does. Haven't actually got the instruments yet, but they should arrive in time for Christmas!
I need some info on which mpcs would be suitable for them, please. The Buffet E13 'A' clarinet has its original mpc, but I've heard that the Buffet mpcs aren't very good. Is that right? And if so, what would be a good replacement mpc?
The other clarinet I bought (couldn't resist it, as I've heard good things about them) is a Bflat B&H Imperial 926, to use as my spare. This definitely doesn't have the original mpc, though I don't know what it has now - will have to wait till it arrives! Any recommendations? Is the Imperial narrow or wide-bore?
Thanks!
Joanna Brown
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Author: bob49t
Date: 2003-12-14 11:18
I hope you enjoy them both individually, but you may find getting a mouthpiece suitable to play on both, to be a very big problem as you would appear to have bought clarinets of quite differing bores. Might be best to test run two mouthpieces and match the m/p /reed combos for strength.
Please see threads on this bore/mouthpiece/intonation topic - quite recent actually. Some older also. Very good resource.
BobT
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Author: markBbclar
Date: 2003-12-14 17:13
A few months ago I bought Buffet E13. Excellent horn and the best thing is it's mouthpiece that came with it which I love. Also a friend of mine tried it and it works for him too. The problem is that we don't know what model it is. There is nothing on it. He would like to get one like this but we don't know what to look for. Any ideas?
Mark
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Author: jo.clarinet
Date: 2003-12-14 20:20
Bob - I wasn't intending that they should share a mpc, so it doesn't matter if they are different bores. I just wondered if anyone had any ideas for those particular models. I'll have a look at the previous threads too - thanks!
Joanna Brown
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Author: john gibson
Date: 2003-12-14 20:41
Joanna
The E-13 is gonig to be a similar bore to the R-13. The Boosey 926 is a big bore and can be fairly "touchy" when matchng a MPC. I've found that the big bore instruments I've played work really well with a Pomarico crystal.
Specifically the Diamond plus. Also the older Brilharts work well. A Nilo Hovey that I have is exceptional on my Leblanc LL.
JG
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Author: bob49t
Date: 2003-12-14 21:09
Joanna,
Having cleared up the bore problem, I have two suggestions.
Peter Eaton in England makes two bores of clarinet - International (buffet type bore) and Elite (wide bore based originally on 1010/926).
His own brand m/p's match his clarinets. So for your 926 you might find an 1010 based Eaton m/p suits nicely. I play on these and can vouch for them -they are fairly expensive but you can get to his site by clicking on the sponsor's section for "Instruments" at the right hand side of this page.
Regarding narrow bore m/p's many of my colleagues have Walter Grabner mouthpieces. I have his Eb and Bass mouthpieces and they are wonderful. Click on sponsors "service" area.
I have no vested interest here, just pleased to sing about pleasant experiences and nice people to deal with.
BobT (opening a can of worms)
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Author: jo.clarinet
Date: 2003-12-14 21:30
Bob - I play a Peter Eaton Elite Bflat (and I love it - I really look forward to playing it each day!) so I can try its mpc on the 926 when it arrives! That's a bit of luck!I've just been reading the threads on 926/mpc combinations and read that you play Elites too.
Joanna Brown
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Author: jez
Date: 2003-12-15 15:45
jo,
The Eaton Elite is the same bore as the 1010 but wider than the 926. I think a french-bore mp would be nearer to the Imperial.
If you let me have your e-mail address I'll put you in touch with the chap who makes all my mouthpieces. He offers a correct 926 bore.
jez
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Author: David
Date: 2003-12-15 16:31
Congrats. Another Imperial! We'll have that red tide of R13s pushed back yet...
My comments only apply to the Imperial, I've never had a left hand drive clarinet before.
I believe Mr Pillinger does wide bore mouthpieces that are suitable, but I've never tried them.
However, you really really really ought to try a Morgan RM10 mouthpiece. It really works a treat on mine. Really.
The intonation is fine and they sorted out the tuning, er... "challenges." B very flat, and A nearly A# with the standard 926 mouthpieces.
The compatibility with the Froghorn shouldn't be too much of a problem. For all the width of bore, Imperials are quite easy to blow, and nowhere near as resistant as 1010s, which require the sort of puff not normally found this side of a wind tunnel.
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Author: jo.clarinet
Date: 2003-12-16 05:57
Thanks, everyone, for all your input so far. Sounds like I'm going to be trying out quite a few mpcs!
Jez - my email is jo.clarinet@btopenworld.com
Jo
Joanna Brown
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Author: beejay
Date: 2003-12-16 07:57
I can second the reccomendation for Pillinger mouthpieces.
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Author: jo.clarinet
Date: 2003-12-16 10:59
David - 'Froghorn' really made me laugh - a wonderful and evocative term! But are you still OK, or have the Buffet mafia come round to deal with you already? ![[whoa]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smilie10.gif)
Joanna Brown
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Author: graham
Date: 2003-12-16 13:06
I can third the Pillinger recommendation. He has several 926 mouthpieces he could send you, but my understanding is that a french bore mouthpiece will play in tune on a 926. As Jez says, a 1010 mouthpiece certainly will not do so.
Read the Pillinger product list on
www.pillingermouthpieces.co.uk
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Author: David
Date: 2003-12-16 13:16
Charles messed with them once, and woke up next to a horse's head.
"Eek! Help, Help, Camilla! Oops, sorry, hon..."
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