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 Tails and orchestras
Author: Alphie 
Date:   2003-12-08 15:26

The Nobel Price ceremony that is held every year in our concert building is approaching. This is the only official tails-party I know of in Sweden and every year it strikes me how badly dressed many of my colleagues are.
All the guests and the price winners are properly dressed with all the equippment that belongs to tails but many members of the orchestra are wearing a normal white shirt, black or white cumberband instead of a vest and occationally blue socks. I find this quite an embarrasment especially at the Nobel Price ceremony. On the other hand, maybe people are more careful that particular day.

But generally I find, at least in Europe even in Germany and France, that orchestras don't care too much about their tales outfit. The worst are the Dutch in my experience. No offence Holland, you are my 2nd home country. But I think, either we play in tails with all the right equipment or we could just skip it. But I do think that a classical orchestra concert shuld be an extraordinary event and I think wearing tales with proper equipment is a way to show that.

Alphie

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 Re: Tails and orchestras
Author: paulwl 
Date:   2003-12-08 15:34

Be careful, Alphie. You make me want to go off on a rant about the disappearance of the wing collar. :-)

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 Re: Tails and orchestras
Author: Liquorice 
Date:   2003-12-08 15:41

But why should we have to wear 19th century costume, when we are also playing music from other centuries?

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 Re: Tails and orchestras
Author: Alphie 
Date:   2003-12-08 15:45

We could change in the intermission.

The wing collar can tickle awfully much if it flips from the bow tie, especially during a solo. [happy]

Alphie



Post Edited (2003-12-08 15:47)

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 Re: Tails and orchestras
Author: paulwl 
Date:   2003-12-08 15:55

The real thing is the detachable kind ...so stiff it would never flip!

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 Re: Tails and orchestras
Author: Alphie 
Date:   2003-12-08 16:20

And sharp too. Don't turn your head or it'll fall off. [rotate]



Post Edited (2003-12-08 16:21)

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 Re: Tails and orchestras
Author: sfalexi 
Date:   2003-12-08 16:31

I often wear blue socks with my often. Not on purpose, i just have horrible color vision and dark blue looks like black to me. As a matter of fact all dark colors look alike to me. I've been known to call greens "brown", and browns and blues "black". Actually, when I went to the optometrist last, I was one wrong answer short of being "red-green" colorblind. Those &^%$ circles with the dots and the hidden numbers!

Alexi

US Army Japan Band

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 Re: Tails and orchestras
Author: Brenda 
Date:   2003-12-08 19:24

Not married?



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 Re: Tails and orchestras
Author: beejay 
Date:   2003-12-08 21:40

As long as they're both blue....

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 Re: Tails and orchestras
Author: diz 
Date:   2003-12-08 21:44

Alphie - hej hej, fordan gor det?

I agree with you - the whole dressing up in Penguin suits is very outdated and silly. But it's something that won't change - it's like getting supreme court judges to stop wearing their goofy wigs ... just won't happen.

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 Re: Tails and orchestras
Author: Ken Shaw 2017
Date:   2003-12-08 21:51

One of my favorite entries from The Devil's Dictionary, by Ambrose Bierce:

PRESENTABLE, adj. Hideously appareled after the manner of the time and place.

In Boorioboola-Gha a man is presentable on occasions of ceremony if he have his abdomen painted a bright blue and wear a cow's tail; in New York he may, if it please him, omit the paint, but after sunset he must wear two tails made of the wool of a sheep and dyed black.

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 Re: Tails and orchestras
Author: BobD 
Date:   2003-12-08 21:54

I would think that for the Noble price occasion one could dress appropriately.

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 Re: Tails and orchestras
Author: JMcAulay 
Date:   2003-12-08 22:33


Would someone please help me? My memory may have a chasm somewhere. I've seen a number of conductors wear Morning Coats, but I don't recall ever having seen orchestra members do so. Of course, they're almost all sitting down, so perhaps I've just missed the tails.

Anyway, all males in the orchestra ought to be wearing the same stuff, whatever it is. Within reason and the dictates of fashion, females should be somewhat "uniform" also. MOO.

Regards,
John

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 Re: Tails and orchestras
Author: Alphie 
Date:   2003-12-08 22:56

A clarinet player friend of mine turned up for an orchestra gig a few years ago and had forgotten his tails. One guy had an extra jacket that he could borrow but that was it. He kept his dark blue Levi's on and from a white napkin he folded something that from a distance looked somewhat like a bow tie that he stack to the collar with two paper clips. He played nicely and there were no comments from the audience so...

Alphie

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