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Author: Rev. Avery
Date: 2003-11-21 19:48
Got the Lefebvre in today. It's in a little worse condition than I had hoped. Has a few more cracks than stated. It would take some work and it's just not worth it. Live and learn -- I hope!!
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Author: Jack Kissinger
Date: 2003-11-22 05:39
The seller may have already told you his/her policy on returns but, if not, you should be aware that it is fairly standard practice for the buyer to bear shipping costs in both directions (and often also the eBay commission) on returned items. So the alternatives you could be looking at are: (a) being out around $20-$25 with nothing to show for it, or (b) being out around $85 with an old (almost worthless) clarinet. However, before you rush out to send the clarinet back, it might be worth taking a close look at the mouthpiece that came with it. I don't want to get your hopes up too high but, from the picture, I can tell it is a Selmer mouthpiece and, given the status of the label and the shine, it looks like it may not have been played much. Perhaps it was purchased shortly before the clarinet fell into disuse. If it is in good condition, with no nicks or dings on the tip or rails, it might be worth more than the clarinet. Older Selmer mouthpieces, that had the model designation engraved on the table ("table Selmers") or in an oval on the table ("oval Selmers") are rather sought after. The newer models have the model designation engraved on the back, beneath the Selmer logo. I can tell from the picture of yours that the model designation is not on the back. That and the age of the clarinet suggest that it is probably a vintage model.
In fact the back of your mouthpiece looks the same as an "oval Selmer" in (what appears to be only) fair condition that recently sold for around $60 on eBay. Depending on which model it is, one in pristine condition could bring quite a bit more -- and you could possibly still get $20-$30 for the clarinet -- adeqately described and sold "as is." Something to think about.
Best regards,
jnk
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Author: Rev. Avery
Date: 2003-11-22 10:18
Hi Jack,
As you've probably discerned by now, I'm not very knowlegdeable concerning clarinets :-)
I don't know what the "table" is. The flat part where the reed sits? On the flat part where the read sits (on the bottom part near the cork) in an oval it says -c-. What does that tell me? The mouthpiece is in very good condition.
I'll hold off mailing until you respond. Thanks again!!
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Author: Jack Kissinger
Date: 2003-11-22 14:04
The table is the flat part where the reed sits. You have a vintage Selmer oval C mouthpiece. According to the Woodwind and Brasswind catalog's mouthpiece table, this is a fairly close-tipped mouthpiece. You might actually like it for yourself. From what I have seen, the C is less common than the HS, HS* and HS** mouthpieces. I'm not sure what implications this would have for its value on eBay but it is from the same period (according to the seller, the 1950's) as the oval HS** that recently sold for around $60 there.
Best regards,
jnk
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2003-11-22 15:32
Very good, perceptive, advice JNK, I agree completely. I came by a "table Selmer HS*" by selling a friend's old cl, and a Sel C and a D via a Mark 6 alto sax purchase, all are excellent "golden-oldies worth quite a few $'s. Take your time, Rev, dont repent in leisure! Don
Thanx, Mark, Don
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Author: Rev. Avery
Date: 2003-11-23 09:53
What is it that makes these models good? Or rather, why is a model mouthpiece, such as this one, a good one?
Also recommended to me was the Fobes Nova. How might it compare to this Oval -c- I have?
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