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Author: jez
Date: 2003-11-19 14:52
Playing this piece today I wondered about a point of authenticity of my performance:
Having studied in the UK I always learned that the words to the last movt. were
"Why do we always have sausage on Saturday?"
But, of course, the composer's intentions must have been different. If we assume;
"Pourquois toujours les saucissons Samedi?"
we might come close, but we have one extra syllable requiring 2 notes so the overall feel may be somewhat different and it is, anyway, only a guess.
The original is, as far as I know, undocumented.
What other pieces might take on a new musical meaning in translation?
Do orchestras from different countries have a whole different sound because of this problem?
How many standard repertoire pieces have these accepted given lyrics?
Are they the same around the world?
What proportion are unprintable?
Do these questions come into my head only when I'm this bored?
jez ![[wink]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smilie3.gif)
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Author: D Dow
Date: 2003-11-19 15:07
I seem to remember clearly when studying in France some pretty nasty lyrics to the above piece Jez, and strongly recognize once words attach themselves to a given song or phrase it being hard to let go.
All of the Strauss Waltzes have lyrics which cannot be repeated on the B Board, but once in the mind have a way of making the performance quite hilarious from a perfromance standpoint.
Recently our orchestra played the Hungarian Dances and the bassoon player mentioned some lyrics to the famoous dance that broke us up every time we tried to play it in concert. the audience thought we were have a good time I geuss,
Are you familiar with the nasty lyrics to Colonel Bogey, in refernce to Hitler and his henchman...these were openly sung on parade during the War years....
David Dow
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Author: diz
Date: 2003-11-19 20:35
One I remember Sir Charles Macckeras teaching us when he conducted Brahms' 4th symphony (I was at the time in the ABC Sinfonia - no longer operating).
Too high, too low, too long, too short, too dark, too blue ... et cetera.
We chuckled and it's kind of ruined that very, very odd first theme for me. It's got to be Brahms' most unusual first subject melody.
Oh yes, and there's nothing like muttering "Death to the Waaabit" to the trombones before playing the prelude to Act 3 of Die Walkure
Without music, the world would be grey, very grey.
Post Edited (2003-11-19 20:36)
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Author: jez
Date: 2003-11-21 12:42
David Dow,
I'd love to get hold of amusing lyrics to Strauss waltzes. I don't know any and I've a very good friend who is embarking on a run of loads of Viennese concerts.
If you could e-mail them to me I'd be most grateful.
jezmj@yahoo.co.uk
My favourite set of words is for the opening of the Rite of Spring;
"I'm only a bassoon,
I'm not a cor anglais
This is too ---- for me
I haven't got a D"
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2003-11-21 13:03
"Passangers will please refrain -----" just ruins the ?Spring Song for me , many others also?? Don
Thanx, Mark, Don
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