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Author: Boots
Date: 1999-11-12 04:49
I know this answer is in a book by Jack Brymer somewhere, but can anybody tell me what the different systems are for clarinets? I play and collect horns. I know the French is the Boehm, what the USA plays. I have a 13-keyed horn and another with the roller pinky keys like a sax (I think this is a German? system. I know there's an Albert, a Mueller, and an Oehler, but I don't know what's what? What are the differences? A follow up is appreciated. Thanks, Boots
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Author: Dee
Date: 1999-11-12 04:57
Mueller developed into the Albert. The Albert developed into the Oehler. It is this last style that is today's German system clarinet.
The Albert system had 3 trill keys on the right side of the upper joint. Some had two ring keys on the upper joint and some did not. There were two keys each for each of the little fingers. Later Alberts sometimes had rollers on these keys. A good picture of an Albert key system is the fingering chart in the Rubank Beginner method book. There is an Albert system on one side while the Boehm is on the other.
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Author: Eoin
Date: 1999-11-12 08:43
The Albert system was known as Simple System in Britain. It was popular in the 19th century and appears to have survived in American jazz circles up to about 30 years ago. It is a narrow bore instrument with a darker tone than the Boehm.
There are two major fingering differences between it and the Boehm:
1. The chalumeau Bb and F fingerings on a Boehm produce a B and an F# on an Albert, making it more suited to playing in the key of G than F
2. The position, look and function of the little finger keys is totally different to the Boehm.
The Oehler is an evolution of an Albert. The Albert fingering will work on an Oehler, but there are extra keys and alternatives for just about every note. The Oehler is just covered in keywork. It is the standard clarinet in German orchestras. It typically has rings on all the finger holes and one hole covered by a pad, like in a flute or saxophone.
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Author: bigcage
Date: 1999-11-12 11:06
Can anyone help with a finger chart for the Oehler? I have a friend who owns an Oehler, but no chart for all the possible fingerings. Your assistance will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!!!!
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Author: Eoin
Date: 1999-11-12 12:08
Tim Reichard's Woodwind Fingering Guide at www.sneezy.org/wfg will eventually feature an Oehler chart, but Tim is busy at the moment with his Multiphonic Flute fingering project, in which he hopes to list every possible fingering for the flute.
I have info on Oehler which I am sending to "bigcage", but it is somewhat fragmented.
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Author: Eoin
Date: 1999-11-12 12:11
Bigcage, you'll have to send me your e-mail address for
me to send you the Oehler information.
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Author: Arnold the basset hornist
Date: 1999-11-16 08:03
To be exactly, there are 5 rings on Oehler system clarinets (no ring for the thumb, and there's only a lever for the right hand middle finger while the hole is move to the side plus a few millimeters downward), and no coupling mechanism between upper and lower joint.
Left hand:
thumb: 1 hole, 1 (register) key
index finger: 1 hole with ring, 2 key
middle finger: 1 hole with ring, 1 key
ring finger: 1 hole with ring, 1 key
little finger: 1 key on upper joint, 4 keys on lower joint (two of them with rollers towards)
Right hand:
thumb: 1 key (low e and low f correction)
index finger: 1 hole with ring and 4 trill keys on upper joint
middle finger: 1 key plate (hole is moved away from the position the finger touches)
ring finger: 1 hole with ring, 1 key
little finger: 2 keys with rollers towards.
total number of initial open holes operated by keys: 9
total number of initial closed holes operated by keys: 15
open holes to be closed by the fingers, with rings: 5
open holes to be closed by the fingers, without ring: 1
I hope, I didn't forget to count one of the keys,
Arnold, the basset hornist
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