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Author: deepriver27
Date: 2003-10-25 13:20
I can't use the barrel that came with my R 13. For now, until I resolve other tuning issues, associated with embrochure, mouthpieces, reeds, breaking in a new instrument and getting it adjusted right, etc., I really think I need to use one of those adjustable barrels like the ones I've seen on Woodwind/Brasswind's site. Any thoughts on which ones will work better than others?
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Author: Synonymous Botch
Date: 2003-10-25 13:21
$25 for a Click! barrel will get you in the ballpark.
You'll likely need to keep searching for something best for your tone.
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Author: Bellflare
Date: 2003-10-25 18:16
Chadash makes nice barrels that solve a lot of issues.
Buffet makes its own Moennig version
Also Pyne and Bay etc.
Some appear with frequency on ebay or online sales auctions at discounted prices. People buy them and then unload them when they switch brands of instruments. Other stockpile them in a drawer forever.
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Author: Ed
Date: 2003-10-26 00:15
Clark Fobes and Walter Grabner make barrels as well.
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Author: sfalexi
Date: 2003-10-26 01:03
You can also find barrel makers out there that will custom make you one (I know Grabner does). If you send your clarinet to him (with S&H there and back I believe), he will custom tune a barrel to your clarinet and I'm sure will make adjustments as necessary to get as good a tone as he can.
Or you could order a few barrels, test them out and see which ones, if any, you like.
I myself have a Bartolai barrel bought through Graham's Music. It was considerably less than a chadash and moenigg and works very well with my E-13. The tone is wonderful, although it did take me a few days to get used to more resistance in my blowing. But now it's great.
Enjoy your hunt!
Alexi <---- Who doesn't endorse or get paid for ANYTHING he says. (Disclaimer)
US Army Japan Band
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Author: Karel
Date: 2003-10-26 05:10
If your R13 is new, do you not have recourse to manufacturer waranty? It does not seem right that a reputable manufacturer would not correct an instrument part of which does not function as it should.
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Author: John J. Moses
Date: 2003-10-26 13:41
Jimmy Yan, in NYC, has just come out with a new clarinet barrel that I am trying out. It's a new shape and bore, and the kinds of wood he has chosen are simply beautiful. So far, they sound good on recordings and in live performance..."who could ask for anything more?"
Contact him at:
Jimmy Yan - JY Woodwinds
250 W 54th St. (between Broadway and 8th Ave.)
Room 801
New York, NY
212-581-9765
JJM
Légère Artist
Clark W. Fobes Artist
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Author: Ed
Date: 2003-10-26 17:08
are these Jimmy Yan barrels like the somewhat "pear shaped" barrels he has done in the past, or something different?
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Author: John J. Moses
Date: 2003-10-26 17:52
Ed:
Yes, the are "pear-shaped" like the older models, but this time around he has eliminated the metal rings at both ends. He has secured the ends of the barrel with a special nylon (?) material to avoid it cracking too easily.
I believe Jimmy is also experimenting with new "exotic" woods, mine is a dark reddish-brown color, and extremely dense. The sound is rich and dark, with plenty of overtones, so it records well.
JJM
Légère Artist
Clark W. Fobes Artist
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Author: Bellflare
Date: 2003-10-26 20:26
Does he have a web page so we can see them?
Cocobala (spelling?) is nice. saw one on ebay.
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Author: John J. Moses
Date: 2003-10-26 23:19
Hi Bellflare:
Jimmy has a small shop in NYC, and he's not very Web savvy. I don't think he does the Internet thing, actually he's too busy in town fixing our horns, listening to our stories, and making his barrels & mouthpieces!
Call him at his number above, or just drop by his shop.
JJM
Légère Artist
Clark W. Fobes Artist
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Author: deepriver27
Date: 2003-10-27 22:56
Thank you so much for all the great suggestions. I want to call Mr. Yan - one of the people I came in contact with recently gave me his card. Thanks again.
Bill
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Author: Wes
Date: 2003-10-29 08:31
One should not lose the original barrel as the instrument may change a little with use. My 1971 R13, bought as new in 1993, was quite flat for a year or so, needing a shorter barrel than the original 66mm. Later, I found that the 66mm barrel was plenty long and now use a 67mm Moennig barrel which also helps lower the pitch of the upper RH notes a little. Good luck!
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Author: icecoke12
Date: 2003-10-31 01:23
I agree with that. My new instrument's pitch has risen (by almost 20 cents) over the past four months! (been using the same setup)
I think its probably due to the different climate the instrument is manufactured in and the expanding (or contracting) of the wood after adapting to the new humidity could cause the pitch or response to change.
I also remember reading somewhere that the pitch of the instrument could rise a little after it has been broken in.
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Author: deepriver27
Date: 2003-11-01 12:15
I called Jimmy Yan - what a great guy. I'm going to bring my instrument to him to look at and adjust (since it's fairly new) in mid-Dec. and try out barrels. As far as his barrels are concerned, any idea what I can expect in terms of pricing?
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Author: Ralph Katz
Date: 2003-11-01 14:07
Good. Having Mr. Yan look at your instrument is the best idea.
Break-in should not be that big an issue, but I don't dispute the comments above. The wood will be at "unplayed equilibrium" when the instrument is new. Over some initial period of playing, the wood will absorb water and reach a "playing equilibrium." The exact moisture content will depend on the player, how much played, the climate, and the season.
I wouldn't get a new barrel until you feal the pitch is really stabilized, after at least 3 weeks of playing. This will depend on how many hours a day the instrument is played. If you play it 1 hour a day, then start gigging with it, the pitch may move even more.
Barrels I have used: DEG (machined aluminum,) Robert Scott custom barrels (Lansing, MI,) and Stephen Fox (Toronto area - board sponsor.)
Regards
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Author: John J. Moses
Date: 2003-11-01 14:57
Get advise from Jimmy on his barrels. I played mine immediately, and used it that night for a 3 hour concert...worked fine. I've been playing on it 4-6 hours a day ever since, no problems. When it dies, I'll get another good one from Jimmy...it's only a barrel!
The cost is $130+ depending on the wood and rings (or lack of).
Good luck and say hi to Jimmy for me,
JJM
Légère Artist
Clark W. Fobes Artist
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