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 Removing Needle Springs
Author: SVSorna05 
Date:   2003-10-14 18:02

Hi Im curious on what specific tool you would use to remove soprano clarinet needle springs, and where you would find it in Feree's Tools thanx
-Dain-

[ Posting was retitled for a clearer subject heading - GBK ]

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 Re: Removing Needle Springs
Author: ron b 
Date:   2003-10-15 00:50

The tool(s) you choose, SV, depend(s) on whether there's a problem, what it is, and how you intend to resolve it. I find that most spring changes are relatively easy but, should you discover some problem ones, you may wish to add to your arsenal some of the following:

pg 26, middle right, LEAD BLOCK

pg 61, bottom right, SPRING PUNCHES

pg 64, bottom right, SPRING REPLACING PLIERS

pg 65, top right, spring PUNCHING/REMOVAL pliers - next, under that (middle right), whole SPRING REMOVING PLIERS

pg 133 lists several BENCH HAMMERS

some folks like the (flute) key PIN REMOVAL TOOL, listed/pictured on pg 59 - I've never used one, myself, or found a real need to get one (even for flutes); the items listed above have been adequate in all situations so far.

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These may give you some helpful ideas. Some things you can improvise, while others may be found at your local home improvement center. If you can, ask your local repair tech. I've found that when you show a genuine interest in doing the job right most techs are quite willing to share information and suggest useful tools and techniques.


- r[cool]n b -



Post Edited (2003-10-15 00:54)

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 Re: Removing Needle Springs
Author: Gordon (NZ) 
Date:   2003-10-15 01:54

Kraus has some an excellent new punch in the form of a plier tool, for removing spring stumps.

To be well equipped for spring removal contingencies is quite an outlay! Not really for the occasional DIY!

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 Re: Removing Needle Springs
Author: BobD 
Date:   2003-10-15 14:08

It sounds like you are not familiar with the subject so I add these cautions to the above excellent advice: Considering the cost of tools that may be necessary in your situation and the problems that can be encountered leading to unintentional damage you really should consult with a technician. Additionally, there is the safety factor plus the reinsertion procedure.

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 Re: Removing Needle Springs
Author: David Spiegelthal 2017
Date:   2003-10-15 16:05

Assuming that the needle spring is not broken off at or below its exit from the post (that is, there is enough spring exposed to grab it), then all that is really needed is a pair of smooth-jawed needlenose pliers -- this tool can be used to both extract (by pushing) and insert (by pulling) the needle spring. A great deal of care must be used to avoid (1) slipping and gouging something on the clarinet, (2) buckling and snapping the spring when pushing it out the back, and (3) crimping or otherwise damaging the post. It can be done with just this one simple household tool, but I'd strongly advise practicing the operation on a 'junker' clarinet until you're very comfortable with the process, as it requires both strength and precise control simultaneously. Or, to reduce the risk of damage, buy the hundreds of dollars worth of tools described above (is this what they call a "Hobson's Choice"?).

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 Re: Removing Needle Springs
Author: Gordon (NZ) 
Date:   2003-10-16 00:30

But bear in mind that some springs are so tight in their posts that if you use only the smooth-jaw pliers, you may need sufficient force to upset the mounting &/or aligment of some posts. With certain UMI instruments the post may well rip out of the body. Also, with tight springs, typical standard pliers may be incapable of holding the spring tight enough.

For spring insertion, the use of unspecialised pliers is quite likely to damage the post.

The idea of the specialised tools is to minimise the risk of damage.

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 Re: Removing Needle Springs
Author: Mark P. Jasuta 
Date:   2003-10-16 03:34

I have on occasion, unscrewed the post and placed it on a piece of soft pine wood then used a fine carpenters punch and a small hammer and just gently tap it out and into the wood. This works if the spring is sticking out a little. If it broke inside the post I have used the same procedure but substituted the punch with a small piece of a broken spring held tightly with needle nose pliers. In each case I removed the post.

I have used some of the methods above with great success but if you have never done it before I would recommend you remove the post.

Regards
Mark

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 Re: Removing Needle Springs
Author: Gordon (NZ) 
Date:   2003-10-16 05:02

Some posts are moulded into plastic. They cannot be unscrewed. They can break out quite easily.

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