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Author: Ron Jr.
Date: 2003-10-08 19:57
This past week I spent ten days in Istanbul. In addition to visiting the Hagia Sophia, the Blue Mosque and getting thrashed in a tukish Hamam, I visited the music stores and I saw Ouds or Lutes and the legendary shawm, the predecessor of the modern Oboe. They came in many sizes but all of them had a flared bell like the clarinet. Several of the longer shawms had more than eight tone holes that ran across the top; I saw as many as twelve tone holes. I recall that woodwind players from times past would fill up the top several holes to play in different, lower sounding keys.
Also, I inquired about reeds at several stores and they were all about $22 for a box V12's; no bargan there. In all my travels across Europe, the best prices is still in the US.
Ron Jr.
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Author: diz
Date: 2003-10-08 22:44
Ron ... do you work in publishing by chance?
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Author: David Peacham
Date: 2003-10-09 08:27
If you visit Catalonia (Barcelona and its hinterland) you can see and hear modernised shawms, with keywork. Two sizes are used, one roughly like an oboe and one like a cor anglais.
They are used in the bands that accompany the local folk-dancing.
Their sound? The easiest way to explain it is to say that the shawm is to the oboe as the sax is to the clarinet.
In the same area you will also see a much more primitive sort of shawm, probably more like the Turkish ones.
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If there are so many people on this board unwilling or unable to have a civil and balanced discussion about important issues, then I shan't bother to post here any more.
To the great relief of many of you, no doubt.
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2003-10-09 14:54
Yes, some woodwind museums have old ones, didn't pay them much attention, more interested in early cls and oboes, I guess. Don
Thanx, Mark, Don
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