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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2000-07-29 13:25
Siour-Chapelain WWI, BI fl La Couture 1917-1927, fl Paris 1917-1927.
1917 established by Robert Siour as successor to F. CHAPELAIN; 1927 workforce of 180 reported, there having been only 30 in 1919; 1927 Siour in partnership with BEAUGNIER.
MARK:
(crest) / SIOUR / Chapelain / PARIS (in oval cartouche) / SC (monogram)
ADDRESS:
1923: 118 Boulevard Voltaire, Paris XI.
From The New Langwill Index
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Author: debbie
Date: 2000-07-29 17:06
does anyone know anything else about this company and Mark....what is the reference book you use? and is it available anywhere?
debbie
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2000-07-29 22:59
The reference I use is "The New Langwill Index". They're pretty expensive - if I remember correctly it cost me about $120 (including shipping & handling & currency exchange - it's available via Tony Bingham's in Londow - check the Equipment section here on Sneezy).
The book was bought via donations to Sneezy.Org - I do the research & publish it here for free. Donations to keep Sneezy.Org running are always welcome :^) - just send me a private email if you want to know how to contribute.
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Author: JoyJHan3
Date: 2003-10-01 00:00
I have a clarinet that has the marks and monogram noted in your message. It is in what appears to be the original case. How do I authenticate this peice?
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2003-10-01 01:03
JoyJHan3 wrote:
> I have a clarinet that has the marks and monogram noted in your
> message. It is in what appears to be the original case. How do
> I authenticate this peice?
What exactly do you mean? If you mean to date it by the exact year, it would be essentially impossible.
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Author: Mark Pinner
Date: 2003-10-02 02:17
I had a Siour-Chapelain in the workshop a while back, one of a few that I have encountered. The guy wanted it restored. It needed every rod replacing, most posts needed to be replaced and or epoxyed as well as pads, springs, corks and a couple of crack repairs. The keys probably should have been replated to give them any strength at all. As is typical this guy thought he was going to get a cheap wooden clarinet but the quote put him off. My observation was that these were probably budget range instruments at best. The keywork had obviously relied on the plating for strength and no locking posts on the horn even down the bottom. The finish work on the wood is pretty ordinary.
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Author: owen1685
Date: 2005-10-26 15:41
Hi, Re Siour chapelain clarinets. I think I was the fellow who was described by M Pinner as the guy who "wanted a cheap wooden clarinet" when I brought a Siour Chapelain clarinet to him to evaluate . I did have the instrument restored(by another technician) and found that the instrument was actually a very nice instrument in many ways. The workmanship rather than being inferior was comparable to professional quality instruments of a similar vintage. I own a matched pair of Buffet clarinets from 1890 and although the Siour Chapelain does not have some of the quality of the Buffet's it is not, in my opinion ,a "budget" instrument. The keywork is of a similar quality-unplated-which was standard. Most of the instruments I have seen from this period do not have locking screws on the posts-certainly the Buffets I own do not and they were top professional instruments from the time. I have found that earlier clarinets do not play well on modern mouthpieces-I use a vintage Rudall and Carte mouthpiece(with a longer lay) that came with another clarinet, made by J Gras-also a pretty decent instrument. The Siour Chapelain clarinet although not quite having the free blowing quality and resonance of the Buffets has a very responsive, sweet sound and is very easy blowing especially in the upper register. I have since found a new bell and barrel joint for this instrument which has further enhanced its sound and look, as the old bell was cracked. When I first got the instrument it was not much to look at ,but with a bit of patience it started to get back its playing qualities and also the condition of the wood started to revive once it had been oiled and played regularly.
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