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Author: Fred
Date: 2003-09-30 01:11
Don't you ever wonder why so many clarinets end up getting sold in mismatched cases? Vitos in Bundy cases, Signets in Vito cases, etc.
Sure, I understand aftermarket cases, but do school kids like to trade OEM cases? Just curious and a bit bewildered . . . ![[right]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smilie8.gif)
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Author: hans
Date: 2003-09-30 02:45
I gave my nephew my old clarinet when he started playing in his high school band. He left the case on the band's bus while he went to play in a sports stadium and it was gone when he got back from the performance. That explains one instance I guess.
Hans
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Author: David Spiegelthal ★2017
Date: 2003-09-30 14:30
Fred,
While you're on an existential voyage, consider this truly enormous question: Why do so many bari saxes on eBay show up missing their necks? Where do all the missing bari necks go? Are the Japanese buying them all up the way they bought all the Selmer Mark VI saxes during the 1970s? Is there a parallel universe overflowing with bari sax necks? These sorts of questions keep me up nights.......
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Author: William
Date: 2003-09-30 14:38
One possible scenerio is that the instrument gets trashed--by mishandling, accident, etc--but the still good case gets recycled with another instrument whose case has deteriorated--broken hinges, latches etc. Given the state of public school finances these days, the music department often has to "make do" with whatever resources are available.
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Author: Bob A
Date: 2003-09-30 14:58
Dave, I'm starting to become a little concerned about you! "Where are all the Bari Necks? Long time passing...."
Bob A
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Author: Fred
Date: 2003-09-30 15:31
The bari necks get damaged in the straightening process.
On another note (yes . . . pun intended), at least mismatching clarinets and cases typically doesn't result in damage to the instrument. I hate it when a nice sax is bent up due to use of a case not designed for its keywork. LH bell keys are famous for that.
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Author: JMcAulay
Date: 2003-09-30 15:47
David: Missing sax necks have never attracted too much of my attention. Perhaps that's understandable if they are not there.
However, I must confess to losing a bit of sleep over the location of the graveyard where metal clarinet barrels go. Is it just my misperception, or do about half of the metal Clarinets offered on eBay lack barrels?
Enquiring mind wants to know....
John
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Author: Synonymous Botch
Date: 2003-09-30 16:01
If you have a donkey in the family, missing sax necks are NOT what keeps you up at night... it's the telepathy they send out as you sleep...
"You love playing the low notes."
"It's the hay that makes life worthwhile."
"The Chicken dance makes hay."
"Therefore, the chicken dance makes live worthwhile."
I would wake up screaming, too.
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Author: John O'Janpa
Date: 2003-09-30 16:14
Somewhere, in a parallel universe, there are thousands of OEM clarinet cases, each containing a "straight" bari sax neck, and a missing sock from a dryer, stuffed with a metal clarinet barrel.
John
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Author: Dee
Date: 2003-09-30 22:56
The majority of metal clarinets do not have a separate barrel. The end of the clarinet has a "cup" the right size and shape for the end of the mouthpiece. I.e. the "barrel" is an integral part of the horn although there are exceptions of course.
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Author: David Spiegelthal ★2017
Date: 2003-10-01 15:25
Is that right, Dee? Although I haven't seen that many metal clarinets, nearly all I've seen had a removable mouthpiece socket on a short pipe (i.e. a 'barrel") sliding over a cork on the upper part of the main body, to allow for tuning. I'd guess that only the very cheapest metal clarinets had a fixed mouthpiece socket as you describe. Jim Lande, help us out!
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Author: Fred
Date: 2003-10-01 15:31
I did a quick look on ebay for metal clarinets. The clear majority I've seen in the past and the clear majority I saw yesterday had . . . or should've had but didn't . . . barrels.
However, the non-removable barrel types aren't limited to cheap models. My Silver King has a non-removable barrel, which I'm sure must have been a tuning barrel. Can't get it to turn now, though.
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Author: JMcAulay
Date: 2003-10-01 17:36
Dee, if you have some reference for that, I'd like to be made aware of it to plug the evident gap in my knowledge. Your statement runs quite contrary to my observations.
Anyway, although I certainly have not seen every metal Clarinet ever built, most I have noticed had a removable "barrel thingie." And when I was learning to play, most students had the pretty shiny ones, not black. Or any other color. Of course, back where I lived, there were no Sterling Clarinets.
Regards,
John
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Author: hans
Date: 2003-10-01 18:51
It may not have been representative of metal clarinets, but the first clarinet I played (in my high school band, 1959) was a one piece silver or silver plated instrument. As Dee said, the barrel was an integral part of it. The case was designed for it; i.e., it was not designed to store the barrel separately. All of the other clarinets in the band were identical to it.
Hans
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