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Author: calvinc
Date: 2003-09-14 03:27
I've been playing clarinet for about eight years now and am ready to try a gigliotti mouthpiece. However, I'm not sure which of the sizes or tips I should get.
P
P34
P2
P3
P4
If someone can point out any differences it would glady, gladly be appreciated.
Another note, which ligature do you prefer?
The Vandoren Optimum or BG Super Revelation?
I like the optimum, but since it is a metal ligature, im afraid of scratches on the mouthpiece. I'm not sure about the BG Super Revelation, my friend and section leader has reccommended it but I'm not sure about it. Please let me know what you think. Thanks!
- Calvin
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Author: sfalexi
Date: 2003-09-14 03:44
I use a Gigliotti P. The P34 has the same tip opening as the P, but a shorter facing. The facings get bigger from there.
http://www.clarinetworld.com/ is Gigliotti products website.
I like my gigliotti. Nay, like is too weak a word. I LOVE my gigliotti. Find out what facing you're comfortable with, order a few and test them them out. Then you determine yourself! (BTW, mine was slightly reworked by Dave Spiegelthal which made a general improvement on the mouthpiece, but I liked it before too!)
Enjoy.
Alexi
PS - on the ligs . . . the hardest part in my opinion is getting a ligature to FIT the gigliotti mouthpiece. You know what though, the gigliotti ligature isn't too bad at all! And at a very low price ($12 I think) defintiely worth at least trying.
US Army Japan Band
Post Edited (2003-09-14 05:42)
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Author: krawfish3x
Date: 2003-09-14 12:45
i use a gigliotti P, although i need to get another one because it chipped when i dropped it. it was a very sad moment...![[frown]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smilie2.gif) ...ill probably bet another P though. i use a vandoren optimum ligature on my clarinet and it works great.
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Author: D Dow
Date: 2003-09-14 16:01
Definitely the P2 or P3, much more flexible response over the more closed facings.
Be sure to test with the reed most suited to the tip openings. I find the P and P34 somewhat limited in response.
But these are just my feelings based on being an orchestral player.
David Dow
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Author: Synonymous Botch
Date: 2003-09-14 18:53
Are the Gigliotti mouthpieces made on Babbit blanks?
The P34 I played was more than a little stodgy.
There are LOTS of offerings of quality under $75, retail.
For one, the Vandoren M series at $55!
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Before you determine that a recommended mouthpiece MUST be the best,
do a play test. There's no substitute for slapping on a reed!
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Author: Ray
Date: 2003-09-14 19:44
I used to play a Gigliotti P but I found it to be shrill in the upper clarion and altissimo. Tom Ridenour altered the facing for me so that the shrillness is alleviated somewhat and the tip opening is a little larger. Now I play it for outdoor concerts with my Vito V40. It is very responsive and quite low in resistance. It plays pretty loud. It has a fairly long, close facing which takes a hard reed and plays well with minimal embouchure pressure. You can play a long time without tiring.
The Optimum ligature has not scratched any of my mouthpieces, and I like it very much. It just barely fits on the Gigliotti, which seems to be a fat mouthpiece. With a thick blank reed, you have the screw about completely extended. It just barely works, but it works.
I also play a BG Revelation ligature. It lacks the gold plate of the the Super Revelation, which I consider tweako. Both ligatures fit, but just barely, on the Gigliotti. Both ligatures have parallel rails which contact the reed. Both articulate quickly and have a clear sound. I like them both equally except that it is easier to get the Vandoren aligned properly. It is a little harder to see the rails inside the BG, and a little harder to turn it on the mouthpiece to center the rails on the reed. For these trivial reasons, I slightly prefer the Vandoren.
Hope this helps.
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Author: Synonymous Botch
Date: 2003-09-15 12:08
Yeah, that sounds right.
I had the opportunity to hear the inestimable Anthony G up close and personal in New Jersey.
Loud was the dominant character of his sound that day.
I think his mouthpiece designs emphasized projection over other aspects of the sound palate.
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Author: D Dow
Date: 2003-09-15 16:17
I find the P34 to lack the project I need in orchestral settings....however, I have also found some work much better than others.
Currently they are made from Babbit blanks.
I steer away from they for my students.....I have played on the P but found it something of a bust when it came to large dynamic changes. Some people are defintitely suited then better than others......
David Dow
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Author: D Dow
Date: 2003-09-15 16:31
P is 1.02 mm
my guages have read this on these facings...
P34 is 1.03+
P2 is 1.09mm tip+
P3 is 1.12mm
P4 is 1. 14 mm+
David Dow
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Author: Ed
Date: 2003-09-15 21:38
It seems that there are different approaches and likes/dislikes in styles of mouthpieces. I have always found the closer facings give me more control and a very compact, centered sound which (for me) carries in an orchestra very well because of the focus. The right mouthpiece can have lots of ring and carrying power.
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