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Author: Mohammeddisto
Date: 2003-08-20 08:23
what are they?
which ones would be appropriate for sanding warpèd reeds?
Have you any photographs or hyperlinks to homedepot.com/lowes.com?
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2003-08-20 11:37
Mohammeddisto wrote:
> what are they?
A certain style of file.
> which ones would be appropriate for sanding warpèd reeds?
I have a 12 inch one that works just fine.
> Have you any photographs or hyperlinks to
> homedepot.com/lowes.com?
I think you could just walk in, ask for directions, and they'll show you. There aren't all that many choices. It's an incredibly common item.
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Author: Synonymous Botch
Date: 2003-08-20 11:45
The Bastard file is less coarse than a roughing file, but lacks the crosscut of fine files. It is primarily used to take off burrs in machining, and can also be effective in smoothing hardwoods.
The 8 inch size (~20cm) size is certainly large enough for working around the house. I think Rob Gilbert could point you in an inexpensive direction for making reeds, if that is your aim.
http://www.rdgwoodwinds.com/clarinets.html
For what my opinion may be worth, I find a decent straight razor and sanding paper best for making reeds. A mill bastard file has one set of teeth cut into the steel (if you can get Swedish steel from Eskilstuna, it wil really last, the Solingen stuff is being made in Brazil and South Africa!)...
this single row of teet means that the file will want to follow a diagonal path when cutting (the reason a finish file is used afterward on metals)
and this will need to be smoothed with a sanding step.
Unless you're making reeds by the gross, I would use sanding paper, and a piece of plate glass as a working surface.
PS - Every Martha Stewart cake mix kit comes with a 8 inch file inside!
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2003-08-20 12:06
Synonymous Botch wrote:
> Swedish steel from Eskilstuna, it wil really last,
Considering the fact that it'll be used for smoothing reeds, I don't think that longevity of the teeth is a real problem 
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Author: Gordon (NZ)
Date: 2003-08-20 12:37
If you must use a file, why not use the much finer ones used by jewelers and watchmakers.
They have a huge range of 'fineness' from "8" to "00".
A very small range is pictured at
http://www.mall911.com/cgi-bin/tools/commerce.cgi?product=spfile
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2003-08-20 13:11
Gordon (NZ) wrote:
> If you must use a file, why not use the much finer ones used by
> jewelers and watchmakers.
Because they don't take off enough cane. A regular bastard file is the equivalent of 600 or finer paper already.
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2003-08-20 14:02
"Bastard" is a term taken from heraldry and means "diagonal." A bastard file is one that has the grooves cut diagonally. (The term is originally from the French and has nothing to do with your parents not being married.)
I think, but am not sure, that a "mill" cut is one where the grooves run horizontally.
The files I use have a "mill bastard" cut. The horizontal groove is shallower than the diagonal one, so the result is mostly diagonal grooves with "teeth" created by the horizontal grooves.
Best regards.
Ken Shaw
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Author: Alseg
Date: 2003-08-20 16:02
Jeanne has a nice flat reed file (see resources/retail on the Clar. Pages)
Home Despot(sic) Bastard files are usually large and round. I have used them to enlarge the hand mechanism hole on a clock face.
Riffler files from Woodcrafters Supply are nice and come in a variety of offsets.
AS
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Author: Ed
Date: 2003-08-20 17:53
I have used bastard files for years to flatten reeds. They work very well. i have found them to work much better than sandpaper. They seem to do a better job at only removing the high spots while not thinning the tip and last forever.
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Author: BobD
Date: 2003-08-20 19:32
Thanks Ken....I've often wondered at the origin of the term
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