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Author: janlynn
Date: 2003-08-14 17:01
page 46 baermann method for clarinet book 3 edited by david hite ....
Db major scale alternate ending B - how do you play a Db,F,Gb,Db ...what hand do you play what note? no matter what way i try it doesnt come out right.
JL
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Author: Richard
Date: 2003-08-14 17:33
Are you using OXX|XXO for Db6?
Try using the right-hand ring-finger instead of the middle finger for the F# (Gb) aux. key?
Post Edited (2003-08-14 17:49)
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Author: Richard
Date: 2003-08-14 18:48
Ah, sorry. That one is a little Harder. What needs to be done is to ‘slide’ left-hand little finger from the Db to the F key.
Or, if there is another way you can ask David Hite himself. I've had very quick resopnses from him in the past: info@jdhite.com
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Author: ken
Date: 2003-08-14 19:08
I'm breaking my own rule about answers on specific sections of music without consulting it first but I think I know what janlynn's talking about. Assuming you are on a Boehm system you are going to have to "slide" one way or the other if using standard fingerings. Either you slide with your left pinkie down from the D-flat (C#) to the left-hand/pinkie low F natural, then alternate to the right-hand/pinkie G-flat (F#) then back up to the D-flat (C#), or use the opposite combination; D-flat (C#) down to the right-hand low F natural, to left-hand/pinkie G-flat, then slide the left pinkie up again to the D-flat. I’ll bet it's intentionally notated that way to build finger strength and technique (thank you Mr. Hite). Pick the one that is the most doable, better yet; learn it to play it BOTH ways. If it's still not speaking...courage!
Post Edited (2003-08-14 19:11)
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Author: GBK
Date: 2003-08-14 19:13
Do a "finger exchange."
Play the F with the right pinky, then quickly exchange pinkys and retake the low F with the left pinky. Then, the Gb can be played with the right pinky which will put you in position for the final Db ...GBK
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Author: janlynn
Date: 2003-08-14 20:10
okay - i'll try the slide method .. i think i tried that but it was so awckward it didnt seem right. i thot i must be doing something wrong - plus - on the other places where you have to slide, its marked with a line.
GBK .. i will try what you said too ... if it hadnt been for a song we played in clarinet choir last year, i would wonder when i would ever have to do that - but as it turns out ... i had to do a quick pinky switch to make it work. cant say i did it very good tho.
but ... thats what these scale exercises are all about right?
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Author: Alphie
Date: 2003-08-15 22:17
Maybe it's ineresting to know that on the Baermann system for which he wrote these excercises there is an extra lever for the right hand thumb to play the low Gb. this leaves the left pinky free to finish on Db.
Alphie
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Author: BobD
Date: 2003-08-15 22:24
GBK....I like the finger exchange tactic and wonder how many readers are familiar with it
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Author: Dee
Date: 2003-08-16 00:11
One should learn both the slide tactic AND the switch tactic. There will be other combinations of notes that will basically require these also.
The Rubank Advanced Method Volumes I and II have specific drills for these "finger twisters" so that you will become smooth with them. They are awkward until you have practiced them repetitively. The nice thing about the Rubank drills is that they take a sequence of 4 to 8 notes that you play over and over for the drill instead of playing an entire scale. It focuses on the maneuver that you are trying to learn.
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Author: Jerry McD.
Date: 2003-08-16 01:30
The pinky switch is something that you will definitely need to learn how to do. The first example off the top of my head is the Brahm's f minor 1st mvt. You'll also need to be familiar with sliding too. The Weber Grand Duo in the 1st mvt requires a slide. I think the choice is almost always dictated by the speed required. In rapid passages the pinky exchange is just too much movement, in slower lyrical passages the slide can by klunky and you can get a blip between the notes. Anyway, you need to be familiar with both techniques because it is always nice to have choices when deciding on fingerings.
Jerry McD.
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Author: Brenda
Date: 2003-08-16 02:12
Slides are really useful - trouble is you can practice in air conditioning and perform in a hot room, your finger doesn't slide too well - OR, slides way off the instrument. You never know what you'll be faced with!
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Author: ken
Date: 2003-08-16 18:24
... And if you're going to be sliding and doing the "finger switcheroo", don't forget the 'ole nose grease standby of flicking your pinkies on the inner crease of your nose to collect a small amount of facial oils. Those goofy passages always seem to come out better with it. v/r Ken
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Author: allencole
Date: 2003-08-17 00:21
The switch technique is hard to escape on really slow pieces. I find that it helps to practice the switch as rhythmically as possible (dual half values on the note in question) so that I'm not distracted by it when time comes to execute the maneuver.
Otherwise, I pray for a faster piece where I can use that nose grease!
Allen Cole
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