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 Clarinet Collectors
Author: Barrie Marshall 
Date:   2003-07-28 18:31

At The moment I am decorating my house, and as I move stuff about out I find clarinets, one under a bed I had forgotten about, I have 3 Bb boehms, 2 Bb Albert System, 1 Eb Albert System, 1 C Albert System and 1 Bb Oehler system(not in playing order), that comes to 8, I'm sure that clarinet players are like stamp collectors, ARE THERE ANY HIGH COUNTS OUT THERE IN CBB LAND? I also have a box full of mouthpieces and ligatures, haven't we all!



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 Re: Clarinet Collectors
Author: GBK 
Date:   2003-07-28 18:55

After the first 20 I stopped counting ...GBK



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 Re: Clarinet Collectors
Author: Don Berger 
Date:   2003-07-28 19:37

I also plead guilty, BUT, its my B W's favorite subject to get the "honey-do's" [at least] started, if not completed!! Only some 6 [mixed insts] are on a display board, another 6 A-M's on cl pegs, and an early tenor sax! I hide the rest in closets. Downrite turribul, keerect? Don

Thanx, Mark, Don

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 Re: Clarinet Collectors
Author: Mark P. Jasuta 
Date:   2003-07-28 19:47

Me too. My latest project (still on the workbench) a Buffet full boehm from 1936. Just finished a Buffet LP from 1912.

Regards
Mark

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 Re: Clarinet Collectors
Author: ron b 
Date:   2003-07-28 20:14

All my personal instruments, except the Oehler("my" horn) and a Simple system, are 'Alberts'. I own several Boehms, just because, that include an alto and a bass, both Bundys which I have fun with too. A trumpet, a cornet and an alto sax, a five-string banjo and two Flute-o-phones add to the pile, which I try to keep discreetly out of the way. I don't consider my horns collector pieces so I don't 'display' them - I play them. I know exactly where each one is and they're all in good working order. Well, maybe I'd better add that I haven't redecorated our house yet so, I may be in for a surprise or two if we ever do
Lessee, now, what'd I do with that little cross-blown tin whistle???

- r[cool]n b -

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 Re: Clarinet Collectors
Author: KENOLD 
Date:   2003-07-28 20:28

I chalenge everybody who has lost count to do an inventory.

I've lost count. ~ 50. I will inventory next week when I get back from the Centrum Country Blues Workshop in Port Towndsend, WA (Acoustic guitar, maybe I'll take my clarinet next year).

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 Re: Clarinet Collectors
Author: Barrie Marshall 
Date:   2003-07-28 21:05

Ron B mentioned he has two Flute-o-phones, what on earth are they? another name for flute perhaps.

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 Re: Clarinet Collectors
Author: GBK 
Date:   2003-07-28 22:07

Barrie... Flutophones were often used in the primary school in general music classes, often as an introduction to learning a wind instrument:

http://users.inetconn.net/~hspdjones/Flutophone1ws.jpg ...GBK



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 Re: Clarinet Collectors
Author: Benni 
Date:   2003-07-28 22:11

The Flute-o-phone looks a lot like a fat recorder w/ a flared bell . . . I'm assuming the fingering and tone on one is probably pretty much the same as your average student recorder?

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 Re: Clarinet Collectors
Author: Mark Pinner 
Date:   2003-07-28 22:30

I have a couple of interesting ones.

I have an Eb which most closely resembles a Baermann except that their are no rings on the left hand. All springs are leaf type cold riveted. Rods are shepherds crook type with no thread. There are no pivot screws either. It is of course a simple system with no rollers. It appears to be made of blackwood of some kind as it is a bit heavy to be made of stained boxwood or maple. It has a register key, throat G# and A wrap around type, left hand chromatic Eb/Bb but no side Eb/Bb, C#/G#. There are 2 upper side keys one is the F/C speaker the other a trill. 2 LH hand pinky keys E/B and chromatic F#/C#, the E/B does not produce F#/C# by itself. There are 2 RH rings at R2 & 3 attached to a speaker pad, one chromatic key for F/Bb the fork fingering works OK and an F/C key and an Eb/Ab (2nd class lever type) key. Unfortunetely somebody has gouged out the barrel to fit a modern mouthpiece which does not play in tune becuase it is a little large. I am investigating getting a more suitable mouthpiece. It is in its original jewellery box type case and plays with the limitations of the mouthpiece. This is from around the 1830's to 1840's and is unbranded. Also metal posts and bell ring so made for Bohemia or Austria.

I have an old Kohlert serial number 29 which is similar to the above. No left hand rings but has the addition of a Eb/Bb side key and the E/B will play F#/C# when held by itself. Again no rollers but tab keys (all 1st class lever type). There are pivot screws, drill rods with threads, leaf and pivot springs. This horn plays fine and is from somewhere around the 1870's to 1880's. Also has metal posts and bell ring.

A 1920's Henri Farny low pitch Bb French style Albert system in fully working order. It is very similar in keywork to an 18/4 Oehler but with a French bore and the throat F# needs venting. It does not on the two above.

A Bb and A pair of low pitch Boosey and Co Barrett Action Clinton systems, 1931, with original mouthpiece (serial number to match A). Solid German silver keywork, tenon sleeves flush bands and seamless tuning mechanism. Again they are fully functioning and fun to play. The Barrett action gives one articulated key mechanism for both the F/C speaker and side Eb/Bb and two trill keys. Rollers on all pinky keys and the longest throat G# keys ever seen. There is another pair the same around town but they are in average shape. No bell ring and the fingering is almost identical to the Albert or Oehler.

A 1920 Heckel Cor Anglais in the process of restoration. It is made of rosewood although there is one contention that it is made in fact of Pernambucco. Keyed to low B only and the fingering of the main scale closely resembles that of the Albert clarinet. It has the original bocal. Sadly the original thumbrest is missing but there is a Heckel oboe of the same vintage in a local museum so I may be able to cast a copy. This horn was playable until I started restoration.

I have others but these are the most interesting.

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 Re: Clarinet Collectors
Author: David Spiegelthal 2017
Date:   2003-07-29 14:54

I've got more than a dozen, most awaiting restoration -- many of them are quite interesting and promise to be fine instruments following renovation:

Fully restored and playing great:
1) 1930's Prueffer professional model with 7th ring, articulated G# --- my personal 'daily player'.
2) 1950's Kohlert (Winnenden) full-Boehm with everything -- mint condition.
3) 1930's? Couesnon Monopole with 7th ring, extra resonance tonehole for low F/clarion C, and neat little roller on low G#/clarion D# r.h. pinky key -- awesome player.
4) 1930's Couesnon, hard rubber (had a matched "A" clarinet which I recently sold).

Awaiting work:
1) Another Couesnon Monopole, standard features, newer (50's?)
2) Still another Couesnon, but this one is not a Monopole model
2) Auguste Buffet (distributed by Frank Holton)
3) Edmond Chedeville
4) Carl Fischer "Artist"
5) Another Pruefer
6) Penzel-Mueller "Professional"
7) Thibouville "Ecole"
8) Another Thibouville
9) Robert Malerne "Standard"
10) Triebert
11) Cabart
12) Boosey & Hawkes "8-10" model

And that's just the Bb clarinets--- I have two bass clarinets, two alto clarinets, an EEb contra-alto, a little Eb soprano, and all four standard sizes of saxophones (including three tenors and three altos). My wife thinks I have too many instruments......ya think?

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 Re: Clarinet Collectors
Author: JMcAulay 
Date:   2003-07-29 22:42

David:

Certainly not.

Regards,
John

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 Re: Clarinet Collectors
Author: BobD 
Date:   2003-07-30 13:14

David: ......and she probably doesn't know about all of them.....

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 Re: Clarinet Collectors
Author: David Spiegelthal 2017
Date:   2003-07-30 14:32

JM and BobD,
Thanks for the moral support. Now understand, I haven't actually been HIDING all those instruments from my wife ---- they're all down in the basement out in the open, it's just that she's afraid to go down there (to the place she calls Clarinet Jungle.........)

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