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Author: CharmOne
Date: 2003-07-25 05:53
What makes a musician a legend? Can anyone explain this please?
Thanks
CharmOne
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Author: ned
Date: 2003-07-25 07:19
Sorry - no one's ever asked me! heh-heh!
Any number of criteria perhaps.
# Personal fortune
# Number of recordings
# Number of good recordings
# Size of fan club
# Skill as a composer
# Skill as a teacher
Not necessarily in order of importance I would point out!
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Author: William
Date: 2003-07-25 13:49
If you actually become a ledgend, we will all let you know. Unitl then, keep practicing.................(tongue stuck in cheek)
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Author: John J. Moses
Date: 2003-07-25 13:50
Example:
When Leonard Bernstein traveled, he was instantly recognizable anywhere in the world. He became, in his lifetime, the most famous American musician.
Whenever I worked with him, he was truly remarkable!
Charisma, charm, confidence, skill, brilliance, talent, and great warmth as a human being...that was Lenny, a legend.
JJM
Légère Artist
Clark W. Fobes Artist
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Author: wyatt
Date: 2003-07-25 14:33
i know many that are legends in thier own minds.
i think that what makes a legend is time. we never know what we have until we lose it or it is no longer available.
bob gardner}ÜJ
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Author: GBK
Date: 2003-07-25 15:12
If you have to ask if someone is a legend or not - they're not ...GBK
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Author: deepriver27
Date: 2003-07-25 18:09
To me this would be someone who the world of music somehow wouldn't be the same without.
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Author: D Dow
Date: 2003-07-25 18:09
A player bocomes a legend when the playing or performances they produce become a memory.
David Dow
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Author: ken
Date: 2003-07-25 20:55
Pre-mature death, particularly at the start of a promising career (Clifford Brown, Ritchie Valens, Scott LaFaro), controversial lifestyle and suicide (Kurt Cobain, Jerry Lee Lewis) outrageous on-stage antics (Ozzie Osborn, Alice Cooper), folklore and myth (Jim Morrison, Janis Joplin, Jimmy Hendrix) are factors in reaching legend status. v/r Ken
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Author: Bob A
Date: 2003-07-25 21:34
Liquorice said"
"They also usually have to be dead first!"
Yep, at least long enough for the "Do you rremember when-----" stories to start in the local.
Bob A
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Author: BobD
Date: 2003-07-25 22:20
It's probably easier to name those we consider as legends rather than try to define what makes them so. Give a viewing to the video "The Art of Conducting" on Teldec and you'll actually see some legends.....including Lenny who certainly gets my vote too.
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Author: CPW
Date: 2003-07-25 23:22
deepriver27 said
To me this would be someone who the world of music somehow wouldn't be the same without.
THAT STATEMENT ALLOWS TEACHERS TO BE LEGENDARY ....THEY CREATE A LEGACY...eg. Bonade
D Dow (---.nbnet.nb.ca)said
A player becomes a legend when the playing or performances they produce become a memory.....
INDEED THAT IS TRUE...
eg Marcellus in the orchestra or K622, or Benny at Carnegie Hall
Premature death...sure, but only if their ouevre showed promise at the time of death...eg Dennis Brain.
Against the windmills of my mind
The jousting pole splinters
Post Edited (2003-07-25 23:23)
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Author: hans
Date: 2003-07-26 02:16
Perhaps a useful criterion, to add to what has already been suggested, is the number of Google hits that result for a search of the musician's name?
Hans
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Author: GBK
Date: 2003-07-26 02:30
Hans said:
> the number of Google hits that result for a search of the musician's name?
Leonard Bernstein - 210,000 Google hits
Kenny G - 590,000 Google hits
So much for that theory ...GBK
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Author: clarnibass
Date: 2003-07-26 04:26
in my opinion a legend is someone people will still buy his/her music for a long time (maybe even forever) after he's/she's dead or at least not making music anymore. for example, bach, mozart, prokofiev, stravinski john coltrane, charley parker, eric dolphy (and a lot more i don't have enough room here to name) are legend and barch is dead for about 300 years. peolpe still listen to his music and buy his CDs. chick corea for example is also a msuci legend and he doesn't play as much as he used too, but people still buy his older records.
i guess a legend is someone ppole buy their music over a long period of time.
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Author: hans
Date: 2003-07-26 13:35
GBK,
Touché. I concede that internet exposure is clearly not adequate as a solitary criterion. But might Kenny G. (I'll take the stairs to avoid having to listen to him) not be a legend in some circles; i.e., his fans?
Hans
Post Edited (2003-07-27 00:18)
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Author: CPW
Date: 2003-07-26 18:56
There was an old adv. for Blackglana furs entitled "What Becomes a legend most" It showed some famous TV or movie ladies in long fur coats hugging and snuggling in the warmth of the fur.
Picture Sabine Meyer in a full length sable or chincilla coat....There's your answer.
(disclaimer...I have no idea what she thinks of fur....and I am NOT advocating wearing of animal pelts.)
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Author: diz
Date: 2003-07-28 03:25
To be a legend ... you must be dead. End of story
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Author: CPW
Date: 2003-07-28 03:35
Drucker aint dead
Pete Fountain aint dead
Benny was a living legend waaay before he died
Longevity does help, however, if you are not dead. It allows for time to establish oneself in the pantheon of performance. (oooh...I like that phrase)
PANTHEON OF PERFORMANCE GREATS( copyright 2003 CPW)
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Author: ned
Date: 2003-07-28 09:35
Oh - there's possibly one more reason that someone becomes a legend - all it needs is a good PR person or spin-doctor, because even the inventory manager of Borders has fallen for it.
Kenny G has been mentioned - obviously someone in the Borders bookstore chain thinks he's a JAZZ legend, because that's where a lot of his stuff is found. Strange that Kenny G CDs would be sitting next to real jazz legends.
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2003-07-28 11:51
John Kelly - Australia wrote:
> Kenny G has been mentioned - obviously someone in the Borders
> bookstore chain thinks he's a JAZZ legend, because that's where
> a lot of his stuff is found.
In any case, this is a clarinet forum. There's enough Kenny G bashing on the sax forums for all - let's leave it there.
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