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 A Cry For Help!
Author: Kes 
Date:   2003-07-24 18:48

I have a term paper thats due soon, and I really need to find some books about Carl Maria Von Weber. I searched through the card catalouge (on the computer) at the library, and I couldn't find anything! Can anyone suggest some books or something to search for that will yield more fruitful results that what I have now???

Thanks so much!

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 Re: A Cry For Help!
Author: Ken Shaw 2017
Date:   2003-07-24 19:01

Hint # 1: Ask your reference librarian.

Hint # 2: Start with Baker's Biographical Dictionary of Musicians, which will have a bibliography on Weber. Then go to the Weber entry in Grove.

Have fun. There's lots to learn.

Best regards.

Ken Shaw

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 Re: A Cry For Help!
Author: Gretchen 
Date:   2003-07-24 19:03

try an encyclopedia, the internet, and just books on romantic opera composers

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 Re: A Cry For Help!
Author: GBK 
Date:   2003-07-24 19:03

John Warrack's biography of Weber (which includes details of practically every work Weber composed) is the standard, and should be available in most larger libraries, or through inter-library loan.

Also, The Clarinet magazine has had, over the years, numerous articles on Weber and his works.

I assume you have already started with Groves ...GBK



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 Re: A Cry For Help!
Author: Clarence 
Date:   2003-07-24 19:14

Kes,

Take a look at some of these hits:

http://search.msn.com/results.asp?RS=CHECKED&FORM=MSNH&v=1&q=Carl+Maria+Von+Weber

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 Re: Answers!
Author: Don Berger 
Date:   2003-07-24 20:01

I'm always amazed on how fast we "regulars" can and will answer requests, with accuracy and completness [sp?]. On first reading I was going to respond re: Groves Dict. et al, it and others! has been well done! I have 2 books which the libraries should [might] have, "A Guide to Orchestral Music" by E. Mordden and "Ency. of the Great Composers and their Music" by M Cross, Vol 2, pg 888 , 8 pgs on Weber! Luck, Kes, Don

Thanx, Mark, Don

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 Re: A Cry For Help!
Author: diz 
Date:   2003-07-25 00:44

Groves is my reference dictionary of preference - I currently own two editions of it. The Weber article in my most current one (there's been another since - it's the ghastly blue covered paperback) is very fine indeed, as with all Grove articles on composers - there is a lot of information about him and his environment (musical environment), very important to get an idea about where he fits into the musical jigsaw puzzle.

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 Re: A Cry For Help!
Author: Kes 
Date:   2003-07-25 02:12

I checked the catalouge, and I found Baker's Biographical Dictionary of Musicians (3 different publishing dates-is newer better?)
I couldn't find the John Warrack biography...
And what is the full title of the Groves?

Thanks so much for your help! You guys are awesome!

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-kes

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 Re: A Cry For Help!
Author: Mark Charette 
Date:   2003-07-25 02:45

Kes wrote:

> And what is the full title of the Groves?

New Groves Dictionary of Music and Musicians

And if your reference librarian didn't know ...
Find a new reference librarian! Our little local public library's reference folk know that one!

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 Re: A Cry For Help!
Author: Jim E. 
Date:   2003-07-25 03:53

Its a rare public library of any size that doesn't have Groves. Like most reference materials, it usually is in a separate "reference" room (or section of the stacks,) and due to size, demand, and cost, does NOT circulate.

Most libraries do have reference materials in the card catalog, "ref" appears before the call number, but it would not be crossed with specific topics.

As powerful as Google and its competition are, a good reference librarian is worth 10 Googles!

As mentioned above, Groves should always be the FIRST stop in any music research. For non-academic purposes, (program notes, interpretation issues etc.) it might be the only source needed.

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 Re: A Cry For Help!
Author: JMcAulay 
Date:   2003-07-25 03:55

Googling "grove music" found that Grove dictionaries are now published by Oxford University Press and are also now online.

Subscription is required, but a *free trial* period is said to be available. Check it out at http://www.grovemusic.com/VALIDATE

Regards,
John

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 Re: A Cry For Help!
Author: Kes 
Date:   2003-07-25 08:05

Thank you all! I guess I just needed a place to start...these new computer catalouges online can be kind of confusing. I looked up all those that you recommended, and found some more with that start!

Maybe you've heard of these...if you know anything about them, that would be nice to hear!!

-The New Harvard Dictionary of Music
-The International Cyclopedia of Music & Musicians
-The Encyclopedia of Opera (Edited by Leslie Orrey)
-The New Encyclopedia of the Opera (David Ewen)
-Great composers, 1300-1900; a biographical and critical guide (David Ewen)
-Music of the Romantic Period (Johannes Riedel)
-Index to biographies of Contemporary Composers (Storm Bull -odd name!)


Are there any of these you would recommend checking out first?
Thanks again for all your help!

____________________
"I speak reedish. Long live the language of the clarinetist!"
_________________
-kes

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 Re: A Cry For Help!
Author: Gordon (NZ) 
Date:   2003-07-25 12:28

The opera ones are likely to be too specific, unless your assignment is specific to opera. Weber was involved in far more besides opera.

It really depends on what depth of material you want.

A 2-page reference on Weber may be not enough.
8 pages may be just what you want.
500 pages covering everything that is known about him, with another few thousand pages of people's reaction to him, is probably far too much!

Search until you find what is appropriate for you and your assignment
Even comprehensive general encyclopaedias are sometimes appropriate.

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 Re: A Cry For Help!
Author: Kes 
Date:   2003-07-26 03:40

Alright...thanks for your advice! I think I'm trying to go for a diversity...just get a good selection of books. I only need two, but if there's more, that's always better!

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-kes

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