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 How do you know your students are no longer beginners?
Author: Meri 
Date:   2003-07-23 22:33

I'm trying to compile a list of ways you can tell your students are no longer beginners. I'd like to get at least 20 ways, but here are my first three:

Your students are playing the slower movements from your pieces.

You've stopped reminding them about air and embouchure.

They experience their first case of "water in the tone holes".

Any others?

Meri

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 Re: How do you know your students are no longer beginners?
Author: wyatt 
Date:   2003-07-23 22:45

when they can get over the break without any trouble.6

bob gardner}ÜJ

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 Re: How do you know your students are no longer beginners?
Author: EEBaum 
Date:   2003-07-23 23:00

When they only blame half their problems on reeds.

-Alex
www.mostlydifferent.com

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 Re: How do you know your students are no longer beginners?
Author: wjk 
Date:   2003-07-23 23:29

When they become a regular on the bulletin board.



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 Re: How do you know your students are no longer beginners?
Author: wjk 
Date:   2003-07-23 23:32

After they've purchased their 12th ligature.

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 Re: How do you know your students are no longer beginners?
Author: GBK 
Date:   2003-07-23 23:37

When the name "Benny", to them no longer means "Benny Hill" ...GBK



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 Re: How do you know your students are no longer beginners?
Author: ron b 
Date:   2003-07-24 00:04

When you're suddenly not quite sure how it's happening... but it sounds GOOD  :)

- r[cool]n b -

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 Re: How do you know your students are no longer beginners?
Author: GBK 
Date:   2003-07-24 00:24

When they actually remove the reed from the mouthpiece after they are finished playing for the day ...GBK



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 Re: How do you know your students are no longer beginners?
Author: Hank Lehrer 
Date:   2003-07-24 00:59

When they can begin to sight read (OK, not perfect but on their own).

HRL

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 Re: How do you know your students are no longer beginners?
Author: diz 
Date:   2003-07-24 01:32

When they start asking to do more duets with you and take the "teacher" part - which is what I used to do. My teacher at the time was the principal of the opera orchestra. I spent (wasted?) a lot of time playing Verdi, Puccini, and Wagner clarinet parts as duets ... loads of fun.

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 Re: How do you know your students are no longer beginners?
Author: wyatt 
Date:   2003-07-24 01:48

when they own more then one pro. clarinets

bob gardner}ÜJ

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 Re: How do you know your students are no longer beginners?
Author: Katrina 
Date:   2003-07-24 03:08

I dunno about the soggy tone hole one. I have one (DEFINITELY) beginner student who had that happen today. I think it happened because she keeps blowing really really hard despite constant comments from me.

I have 4 students who are not beginners. I have 5 students who are beginners. I have a total of 13 clarinet students. That makes 4 students who are somewhere in between...

Sorry I have nothing really witty to add to the list...

Although at least one of my students has been here to the BB, although she was a little too intimidated to make a post on that "Why is the Mozart concerto so great, anyway" thread...

Katrina

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 Re: How do you know your students are no longer beginners?
Author: krawfish3x 
Date:   2003-07-24 03:10

when you dont have to remind them to practice.

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 Re: How do you know your students are no longer beginners?
Author: msroboto 
Date:   2003-07-24 03:17

Owning more than one pro clarinet is does not speak to ability. It speaks to the wallet. As a 40 something with no kids I can indulge myself and do own a couple of R-13's but that doesn't make me good. One of them has even been to Brannen. Still doesn't make me good.

I bought them because I could and because I do aspire to be better. I practice, take lessons, play in the community band.

Ok so maybe I'm not a beginner but I'm not there yet.

...still trying

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 Re: How do you know your students are no longer beginners?
Author: dfh 
Date:   2003-07-24 03:42

how about when they say the other kids are gross for not swabing out thier horns?

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 Re: How do you know your students are no longer beginners?
Author: Jack Kissinger 
Date:   2003-07-24 04:05

When they throw Baermann (instead of their clarinet) at a bug running across the floor during a practice session.

Best regards,
jnk

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 Re: How do you know your students are no longer beginners?
Author: Francesca 
Date:   2003-07-24 05:26

I would think they are past the beginner stage when they become acquainted with the clarinet classics, playing and/or listening. You know, Mozart concerto, Hindemith and Brahms sonatas, etc, etc... Also, they can bring more than one item prepared to a lesson. If they can play through a scale or two, an etude, and a duet in one lesson, then you've got a well-rounded player.



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 Re: How do you know your students are no longer beginners?
Author: Synonymous Botch 
Date:   2003-07-24 11:58

When they willingly spend their allowance on lessons.

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 Re: How do you know your students are no longer beginners?
Author: wyatt 
Date:   2003-07-24 14:43

when they stop saying
"are we having fun yet"ˇ

bob gardner}ÜJ

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 Re: How do you know your students are no longer beginners?
Author: Rick Williams 
Date:   2003-07-24 16:05

They play an E3-C6 scale without even thinking about it.

When they ask, "how can I do this better" rather than just going through the motions.

They look at a piece of music and comment, "that looks like fun!"

Their parents stop complaining about the racket!

Parents start complaining about how much time they practice!

When they walk through the door wanting to play music they bought rather than something they werre assigned!

When they re-arrange parts, because they like theirs better.

They get a job to save up for a better clarinet

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 Re: How do you know your students are no longer beginners?
Author: Mark P. Jasuta 
Date:   2003-07-24 17:00

When attaining 1st chair in their band becomes desirable.

When they "show off" a new skill to fellow band members.



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 Re: How do you know your students are no longer beginners?
Author: ken 
Date:   2003-07-24 17:01

1) When my student begins repeating my own words on applying fundamentals back to me.

2) When my last/only student of the day knows it and wants to hang and play duets until I have to stop them because they're hurting themselves.

3) When they ask to browse and borrow clarinet CDs from my personal library.

4) When from the moment they walk through the door until leaving all they want to do is talk clarinet, cLaRiNeT, CLARINET!!

5) The first time they ask about my own horns and want to try them.

6) When they’re practicing late at night, call me up past 11:00 p.m. for help on their lesson and couldn't care less if I already went to bed and they woke me up. v/r Ken



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 Re: How do you know your students are no longer beginners?
Author: Clarinetbiter135 
Date:   2003-07-24 17:44

You've had at least one pad overhaul on a brand new clarinet (and actually needed it)

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 Re: How do you know your students are no longer beginners?
Author: Phat Cat 
Date:   2003-07-24 18:01

When you ask to play the "student" part of the duet.



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 Re: How do you know your students are no longer beginners?
Author: Kes 
Date:   2003-07-25 08:09

Even though I'm not a teacher of clarinet myself, I would have to definitely say:
-When they sit up straight (not slouching or resting their clarinet or elbows on something), and play with pride.

____________________
"I speak reedish. Long live the language of the clarinetist!"
_________________
-kes

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 Re: How do you know your students are no longer beginners?
Author: n_hanson12 
Date:   2003-07-25 16:53

When they start working on their own, instead of only when someone is making them.

~Nicki



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