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Author: mervin
Date: 2003-07-20 12:31
Does practising long term double tonguing affect your single tonguings?
Post Edited (2003-07-20 12:33)
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Author: William
Date: 2003-07-20 15:47
My experiance is that unless you faithfully practice your single technique, the multiple tonguing action will slow you down considerably. This is probably a result of your tongue "learning" to react with contrasting motion during the double or triple strokes, which causes a muscular memory "conflict" when returning to the single action. Perhaps others will have a more scientifically accurate explanation and perhaps some advice on practicing both. There was a recent posting of a warm-up used by Robert Spring that may be of some interest. Do a search and good luck.
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Author: Brent
Date: 2003-07-22 13:36
That's interesting. My experience was the opposite--consistent work on double tonguing actually improved the single tonguing speed a bit.
Now, i never *stopped* working on the single tonguing--just added the double. If you quit working on your single tonguing, that would be a different matter.
Brent
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Author: William
Date: 2003-07-22 16:38
"i never *stopped* working on the single tonguing--just added the double."
My point, exactly. Thanks for sharing.
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Author: D Dow
Date: 2003-07-22 17:12
Gervase dePeyer apparently single togues everything, and faster than anyone who can double tongue!!!
David Dow
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2003-07-22 17:26
D Dow wrote:
> Gervase dePeyer apparently single togues everything, and faster
> than anyone who can double tongue!!!
Well, not quite anyone, but fast enough nonetheless.
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Author: William
Date: 2003-07-22 17:48
Guess some clarinetists were in the front of the line when fast tongues were issued at birth. Those like me--at the other end--have to rely on techincal "crutches" like DT and TT. But I continue to practice ST along with the multiple ones, so that what speed my ST does possess remains constant. It is the preferential method for articulation--some are just faster than others, but practice does help (even me).
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Author: Ralph Katz
Date: 2003-07-23 14:39
I always wondered how the Netherlands Wind Ensemble's clarinetists did what they did on the Overture to Semiramide, a 20-plus-year-old recording. Their instruments have very small mouthpieces, which may facilitate double tonguing.
Where can we turn for pointers in getting started doube tonguing?
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Author: ken
Date: 2003-07-24 17:26
The best teacher and experience for me for all methods of tonguing was enduring thousands of orchestra transcriptions over 30+ years in full-time concert bands. Depending on the program, constantly covering string parts is chop torture of the worst kind. However, over long exposure meeting those playing demands (for most players) it helped develop an indomitably strong and lightening fast snake tongue. v/r Ken
Post Edited (2003-07-25 13:09)
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