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Author: angella
Date: 1999-10-28 20:53
i'm currently trying out a peter spriggs floating rails ligature. i like how it sounds, but it's nearly impossible to switch clarinets (take the mouthpiece off quickly enough) without the ligature slipping- since it's so thin there's not much to grab onto. has anyone else had a problem with this? i need a good ligature. the bonade is ok, but scratches the mouthpiece where it screws on, and it doesn't sound as good as the spriggs anyway. i like the b.g, but it seems to have a bit of a problem slipping as well, but maybe not as bad as the spriggs. i need something with a good resonant sound, that will stay on the mouthpiece, that won't deaden the sound.... does anyone have any suggestions? luyben is out, rovner is out, vandoren optimum is out...
any suggestions, please???
thanks,
angella
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Author: Kevin Bowman
Date: 1999-10-28 21:59
Why look for a ligature that simply "won't slip off"? You should be choosing the lig that sounds the best!
To keep any lig from slipping, try putting a bit of electrical tape on the back of the mouthpiece. This will also keep your Bonade from scratching the mpc. Electrical is easy to remove (when you want to replace it) and provides an excellent grip for ligatures. You can even put a strip almost all the way around, except on the table, of course. You'll find that you don't need to tighten the screws as much either, which might provide freer reed vibration.
Kevin Bowman
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Author: Tracy
Date: 1999-10-28 22:52
trya gigliotti ligature. My teacher just gave me one an it sounds great and doesn't slip off. But I must aggree with Kevin that you shouldn't be worried about it slipping off...worry about the sound more.
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Author: Barry
Date: 1999-10-28 22:53
I winced when I saw the price, but I tried the new Olegature ligature (by Rico), loved it and bought it. I've had no regrets. It isn't stuffy, as the Optimum and Rovner can be. It provides an extraordinary dynamic range from extremely delicate staccato to in-tune fortissimo. And the tone can be adjusted from dark to bright by tightening the front or rear screws. I'd love to hear what others think.
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 1999-10-29 00:07
Back to the Spriggs. I use a Spriggs, too. The solution is: keep the cork well greased and grab the mouthpiece on the bottom when twisting it to remove it from the barrel.
Cheers,
Mark C.
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Author: angella
Date: 1999-10-29 00:57
Kevin wrote:
Why look for a ligature that simply "won't slip off"? You should be choosing the lig that sounds
the best!
Sure, but when you're sitting in an orchestra and have to make a clarinet change- the last thing I personally want to worry about is if my reed is going to be on when I put the instrument back in my mouth! Of course sound is important, though. I'll try the tape thing.
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Author: Brandon
Date: 1999-10-29 04:25
Where can one buy or test this Spriggs lig? I do not believe I have seen it in a catalog. Plus, what is the price?
Brandon
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Author: Daniel
Date: 1999-10-29 04:44
When i need to make a clarinet change in the middle of a piece, i simply use the same barrel. Saves a little bit of warm up time, and no worry about the ligature slipping. Also, my Kaspar has dental floss instead of cork so i keep the floss just loose enough where if i DO need to take the mouthpiece off with the reed and ligature all on, i can grip the mouthpiece on the sides of the beak and twist as i pull...
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 1999-10-29 12:02
Please visit the Sneezy Sponsor's page (check the menu) and click on Peter's graphic (The Clarinet Center).
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 1999-10-29 15:34
Good point, Daniel, if the tenon/socket sizes AND the inside-diameter ['s, if tapered] match. My solutions are like Kevin's using masking tape [less adhesive residue] or the judicious use of a file if your Bonade [invert preferred] has rough edges. Luck, Don
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Author: angella
Date: 1999-10-29 17:28
daniel-- or anyone.
what is your opinion, then, about barrels made for b flat and for a clarinets.... i mean, they are made for the different instruments. i did used to switch barrels, but i just bought a cadash for B FLAT, so what's the difference between barrels made for b flat and made for a clarinets? does it really matter?
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Author: Kontragirl
Date: 1999-10-31 18:24
I love my Robert Vinson ligature. It doesn't slip and it gives me a more open sound (it's durable too, that's something I learned with my metal ligatures)
<a href=http://www.great-river.com/equatone/Robert Vinson Ligatures</a>
Kontragirl
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Author: Kontragirl
Date: 1999-10-31 18:27
Sorry, I meant to do this:
<a href=http://www.great-river.com/equatone>Robert Vinson Ligatures</a>
Shows where showing off can get you
Kontragirl
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Author: Daniel
Date: 1999-10-31 23:32
Primary difference in barrels is length. If it plays in tune, on both horns, then it works. It all depends on your barrel and your horn and mouthpiece. It just takes lots of experimentation.
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Author: Drew
Date: 1999-11-02 00:13
These are really nice ligatures, here are som pluses:
#1 The sound I get from my setup using this lig is the best I've found so far, nice centered and round sound, not too dark but a nice compromise.
#2 Economical, they run about $15. Compare to a Vandoren Optimum at $45 or higher.
#3 Since the lig is made from some sort of plastic (maybe polypropylene), it won't scratch you precious mp, ever!
#4 Easy to take off and put on
#5 Inverted sytle, so no problem with tightening and "pinching" the reed.
Disadvantage - you can't remove the moutpiece from the barrel easily without disturbing the lig/reed. I've gotten into the habit of just removing the lig and reed when the mp needs to come off.
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Author: Peter
Date: 1999-11-07 02:40
The Peter Spriggs "Floating Rail Ligature" can be purchased from International Musical Suppliers Inc. near Chicago 1-800-762-1116 or directly from its creater. Details on website: < www.pspriggs.com >
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Author: 006
Date: 1999-11-09 00:40
I have a Rovner R1 Dark and it has a nice tone.
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