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Author: gmofclarinet
Date: 2003-07-10 12:42
Hi everyone!
I am not new here.... but it has been a LONG time since I have written on here. anyways. I was wondering if anyone has heard of Rabaud's "Solo De Concours" I am playing it tonight at a recital for a music camp I am at. and I was just wondering if anyone has played it. Also, Has anyone have heard it played like on a cd or something? I want to hear it and I cnat find it! Thanks!
--Mindy
www.lochwoodacademy.com
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Author: Ralph G
Date: 2003-07-10 13:19
I played it in high school for the ol' solo and ensemble dog & pony show, though it's been 19 years and I can't remember any useful advice to give you. There's an mp3 available here, but I haven't listened to it and can't vouch for its quality:
http://students.washington.edu/mbyerly/download/me/
Good luck, and have fun with that opening.
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2003-07-10 13:42
The Solo de Concours is a lot more difficult than it looks or should sound. I'm not sure whether Rabaud was a clarinetist, but he either didn't know what lies well or set out, in a solo de concours (contest piece) to test the ability of the competitors.
The first recording, by August Perier, is spectacularly good. It's been reissued on LP by Grenadilla and on CD. I think it's on one of the Clarinet Classics historical compilations, or on Rich Gilbert's historical CD label, which I think is called Grenadilla.
Best regards.
Ken Shaw
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Author: theclarinetist
Date: 2003-07-10 15:10
I played the song for my freshmen jury in college. I agree with Ken. The song seems to be more difficult than it is rewarding to perform.... but what do I know? I actually enjoyed the song. The last section (the fast part) is really nice.
The recording I have (which I think is good) is on Solos de Concours: Music from the Premiere Prix, played by Victoria Soames. Look it up in amazon.com. It's a really nice CD overall.
Don -->theclarinetist@yahoo.com
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Author: clarinetqween
Date: 2003-07-10 16:16
I played that song my sophmore year of college. I also plan to play it on my senior recital in its entiriety. Our recital lab period does not allow us to play over 8 minutes.......
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Author: Brenda
Date: 2003-07-10 16:37
Yes, I'm currently preparing it for the Royal Conservatory exam. It would be nice to hear a recording of it. But without having heard anyone play the intro besides my instructor, it leaves the door open to a great deal of interpretation. Since the opening movement is basically with no accompaniment at all, it allows you to quickly establish if you have the guts to get out there and show your stuff, or lay back and be one of the rest of them.
The largo looks really difficult, but by counting it in 6 and pencil-marking the beats it's broken down into something that can be handled quite easily.
As for the Allegro portion, right at the top of page three where you finish with the triplet/16th note run, I sense that the piano accompaniment causes an unnecessary rise in the clarinetist's blood pressure. (Was it intentionally written that way?) Maybe it's just me, but although the clarinet part isn't terribly difficult, phsycologically the tension builds so I see a mental image of tumbling down a mountainside; there's so much turmoil in that piano part that even continuing with the C major arpeggio turns into a real feat. I have to strenuously remind myself that all I'm facing is a simple C major arpeggio. Does that happen to anyone else? Then about 2/3 the way down the page the tension releases and I feel I'm home free.
Personally I feel that during the entrance to the last movement, the eleven bar rest, the accompanist should pull back the speed during the last of the 11 bars. Then as you enter the triplets you're in control and can better handle the 16th note runs when they come along. After the last of the three chromatic runs, as you start the arpeggios, do you ask your accompanist to give you an extra half second to take a breath, or do you just take an extra deep breath when diving into the last chromatic run? There's a final crecendo to an ff at the high G at the end, and it's hard to crecendo or keep in full control when your air is running out.
After all this time it's interesting to hear from someone else who's playing the piece.
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Author: GBK
Date: 2003-07-10 16:49
For some interpretive ideas and history, read Guy Deplus' master class article on this piece in The Clarinet Volume 25 Number 4 ...GBK
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Author: Ralph G
Date: 2003-07-10 17:03
Well, if I'd bothered to check that mp3 I suggested, I'd have known it's not there. My apologies.
On this site is a downloadable RealAudio file (as opposed to streaming) that really DOES work:
http://www.wardsworld.net/clarinetaudio.html
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Artistic talent is a gift from God and whoever discovers it in himself has a certain obligation: to know that he cannot waste this talent, but must develop it.
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Author: Brandon
Date: 2003-07-10 18:28
I have a recording that has clarinetist Walter Boeyken(sp?) playing it along with many other French recital pieces. I played this two years ago. The second movement is one of the best parts of the piece IMHO.
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Author: gmofclarinet
Date: 2003-07-10 20:08
Thank you everyone who has answered to my question. It has helped me. I agree with everything, everyone has said. I am taking the beginning more like a cadenza. The 2nd part I think in 6 (which helps soooo much) the 3 part I take a little slower mostly because I get a little nervous. lol. and then the last part I take even a little slower so I can get those 16th notes down. Thank you very much again. I hope everyone has a great rest of the summer.
--Mindy
www.lochwoodacademy.com
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Author: Brenda
Date: 2003-07-11 00:11
How would I get ahold of that discussion in The Clarinet - Volume 25 number 4? I've looked around online without success. Would I have to locate this issue in someone's library?
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2003-07-11 00:28
Brenda wrote:
> How would I get ahold of that discussion in The Clarinet -
> Volume 25 number 4? I've looked around online without success.
Check "The Clarinet" section at http://www.clarinet.org for information on obtaining copies of the magazine.
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Author: Brenda
Date: 2003-07-11 14:06
Mark, Got it - thanks! I guess the heading "The Clarinet" is way too general for the search engine to handle.
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Author: bkmorton
Date: 2004-08-10 20:48
I would like to bring this subject back up. There are only 2 recordings of professional players, Walter Boeykins and Victoria Soames, are there any others out there?
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Author: peking moon
Date: 2004-08-10 22:49
There is a recording of Harold Wright available on Music Minus One CD set. A very interesting recording if you are a fan...
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Author: SGTClarinet_7
Date: 2004-08-10 22:58
John Denman also does this piece on his cd The Art Of John Denman. He is an Australian clarinet player. I picked up this and one other cd of his when I was down there a few years ago. Great recording.
Matthew
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Author: contragirl
Date: 2004-08-11 03:34
I played that my first year as a music major! It drove me nuts cuz the notes all seemed so random and without direction, so that was how I played it! hahaha. It took me a while to get the hang of it, but I finally got through it. I think I might have a recording, I will check.
--Contragirl
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Author: hartt
Date: 2004-08-11 04:16
SGT CLARINET.........CORRECTION...........John Denman WAS, not is....
My friend/teacher passed away from cancer 3 yrs ago. His last performance was at Reid Park Bandshell with the Tuscon Pops Sym. He played CROSSOVER CONCERTO which he had composed. There were 11,000 people sitting on the open lawn/hills. It was a tragedy to watch him struggle thru it. He died 2 months later.
John was English, not Aussie. At age 15, he was a member of the London SO. The Queens SO, etc. He did quite extensive clarinet work in Australial as well as China.
Interestingly, he once mentioned that he met a young HS student in Austraila who had fingers/tongue near equal to him. He sponsored the kid to the US but in short time, the student was homesick. ..so....
regards
dennis (:o)
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Author: SGTClarinet_7
Date: 2004-08-11 14:23
Dennis,
I'm sorry to hear about John. Thank you for the info, though. He was an amazing clarinetist. I wish to be just HALF as good as he was.
Matthew
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