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Author: MusicAddict87
Date: 2003-07-10 06:26
I've recently purchased a C-12 from ebay and I'm quite happy with it, it plays beautifully (better than my nearly-new E-11, I think) and I was wondering if anyone knew any history on it? Mine looks like it has nickel-plating, but I heard rumor it only comes in silver? And how could I tell either way? And why did they stop making them?
Also, just something funny I'd thought I'd throw out there. Someone I shared a stand with at a band class I was in made the best suggestion ever to piss off the person next to you.....while they leave take their reed and flip it over so the part that usually faces you is against the mouthpiece so they won't be able to play. I've never tried it, but if anyone has or does I'd love to hear the stories.
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Author: Mark P. Jasuta
Date: 2003-07-10 12:21
MusicAddict87,
Offered from 1984 to 1992, the C-12 is the "conservatory model" positioned between the E-13 and the R-13. It is no longer available in the US because the price difference between it and the R-13 was only $300 and most people went for the R-13. They are really good horns, my daughter has one. Hers was made in 1987. You could date yours by going to their website. Follow the link http://www.musicgroup.com/Instruments/FrameBrands.htm
Best Regards
Mark
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Author: R13A
Date: 2003-07-11 00:40
The Buffet C-12 clarinet was produced only a few years, and was priced at $895 in 1984, and $1,820 by 1992.
It is a very good instrument, positioned between the professional R-13 (used by a vast majority of symphony clarinetists, and currently listing at over $2,700) and the near-professional E-13. It is a French clarinet (E-ll's and below are mass-produced in Germany) with similar wood to the R-13. As you probably know, the E-13 is a VERY close relative to the R-13, so the C-12, being between them, should be an excellent instrument . The original case is an R-13 case.
I have (had) a C12. I 'donated' it to a friend. It was quite good: superb intonation, free blowing. I've played worse R13's.
Unlike an R13, it has a different sliver key contour on the LJ.....straight down rather than the R13's curve. Also, the wood is not cut out/releived under the RH cluster of the 'pinky' keys.
If you like it, just enjoy it and toot toot
and remember, turn the bbl in increments to find the 'sweet' spot
d
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Author: BobD
Date: 2003-07-11 14:29
"E-ll's and below are mass-produced in Germany"
Sounds like a put-down, but then Mercedes are mass produced too....as are R13s.
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Author: Mark Pinner
Date: 2003-07-12 00:17
The C12 is still available although hard to find in Australia. As stated above it is priced between the E11/13 and the R13 but looks different. The keywork on the E13 is the same as the R13 but of slightly cheaper material. The C12 has different keywork and is almost surely also made by Schreiber/ Keilwerth who make the E11 and E13. I haven't measured anything but I think you will find the bore profile matches more closely the RC whereas the E series match the R13. We don't see the E13 much here as the R13 is relatively cheap so the model between the E11 and the R13 is seldom imported. RC's are hard to get here they are only imported in small quantities.
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