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Author: Harold
Date: 2003-07-07 20:18
Does anyone know of any recordings by clarinetist Sidney Forrest (former Principal, National Symphony Orchestra) that have been made into CDs? Given his age, they would have been LPs remastered into CD format. I am looking for his personal or chamber work, not symphonic works he may have been involved in. Thanks.
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2003-07-08 14:54
I have, I think, all of Sidney Forrest's LPs. They were issued on small labels and are highly unlikely to be reissued. He was a fine player, with a lively, rather bright sound that did not record particularly well. (Players with the same type of sound include Anthony Gigliotti and Alan Hacker.) He was an outstanding teacher and was at Interlochen for many years -- I took lessons from him there in, I think, 1961.
I haven't listened to his recordings recently, but as I recall they're technically perfect and musically reliable, middle-of-the-road performances.
Best regards.
Ken Shaw
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Author: John J. Moses
Date: 2003-07-08 23:29
Ken is right on about Forrest. I also studied with him briefly at Interlochen from 1956-61, he was a rather rigid teacher in those days. I switched to Bernie Portnoy, then to Keith Stein. Interlochen had some fine teachers.
Sidney's playing, at that time, was quite dazzling, with lots of flash, and he favored contemporary music, which he did well.
Good luck with the old recordings, perhaps Interlochen has something in its archives that would interest you?
Regards,
JJM
Légère Artist
Clark W. Fobes Artist
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2003-07-09 14:37
I checked my discography. The Forrest LPs are as follows:
Berg 4 Pieces, Lyrichord LL 13
Brahms Trio, Lyrichord LL 9
Hindemith, Sonata, Lyrichord LLST 715
Mozart Quintet, Lyrichord LL 10
Mozart Trio, Lyrichord LL 9
Weber Grand Duo, WCFM LP-12TV 34035 S
Weber 7 Variations On A Theme From Silvana, WCFM LP-12TV 34035 S
Lyrichord was a small LP label. I have no idea whether they were absorbed by another company. The other LP has no record company identification. I filed it under WCFM because it was apparently put out as a private recording by a radio station with the call letters WCFM.
As I recall, he didn't play any solo recitals, at least while I was at Interlochen. I think he played only in ensembles. I checked with Interlochen a few years ago about older recordings, but was told that they had discarded the reel-to-reel tapes from that period. Also, they didn't record all the concerts, or even most of them. You could order custom LPs made, but, again, they had to be requested shortly after the concert.
John - Keith Stein's last year at Interlochen was 1958, my first year there. I adored him and was very disappointed that he had retired when I returned the next year. I studied with Forrest that year, and with Portnoy in 1961.
Best regards.
Ken Shaw
Best regards.
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Author: John J. Moses
Date: 2003-07-09 16:41
"John - Keith Stein's last year at Interlochen was 1958, my first year there. I adored him and was very disappointed that he had retired when I returned the next year. I studied with Forrest that year, and with Portnoy in 1961."
Ken - Keith Stein had clarinet book published, it was nothing like his teaching at Interlochen. I enjoyed him as a teacher and mentor to so many fine players, including Larry Combs during his Interlochen days.
Bernie Portnoy was another interesting teacher, and we didn't agree on much. He was great on orchestral excerpts, but very rigid, like Forrest.
After Interlochen, I studied with Alberto Luconi at U of Michigan, then with Larry Teal, Bill Stubbins, and finally, John Mohler. That did it for me at Michigan.
Coming to NYC 40 years ago was quite a trip, I planned to study with Herb Blayman at the Manhattan School of Music, but, surprisingly, got a scholarship to Juilliard. It was there that I was again pared up with Bernie Portnoy, and studied with him for my BM & MS
It wasn't until my late graduate years that I met, studied with, and became good friends with the great Joe Allard, a truly "virtuoso teacher."
BTW I also took a few lessons with:
Gino Cioffi
Harold Wright
Tony Gigliotti
Leon Russianoff
Herb Blayman
Jimmy Abato
I think that's all the guys, and I thank them all for their care and patience with me, all those years ago. So, go for it kids!
JJM
Légère Artist
Clark W. Fobes Artist
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Author: ereveal
Date: 2003-07-10 03:01
Sidney is again teaching at Interlochen this summer-his 44th year! I studied with him in 1964 and started again nearly eight years ago. I have been after him for most of those years to get his recordings remade. He also had an extensive chamber music career here in DC (often with his wife Faith) and a few of the Library of Congress and Phillips Collection concerts were recorded. He's love to hear from any of you that also believe he should redo the LPs as CDs. I am happy to pass any replies on to him....
Betsy
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Author: D Dow
Date: 2003-07-10 11:31
Interesting discussions on Sidney as usual. I seem to remember a freind of mine regarding him as something of a nightmare in the study room, although very tough a bit unrelenting and intimidating according to his insights.
The few recordings I have heard of him were quite nice, although I felt his sound was a bit outdated and somewhat thin in the clarion. The recording I have on lp is the Saint Saens and some other french recital music. However, a soloist and player he is very musical. I felt at times on the record I had he needed more weight to the tone, although the articulation style is superb.
My main teacher in Boston was Harold Wright while I was at the Conservatory there, and from him I learned a great deal about tonal shading. I was rather glad I did not do a summer school thing with Forrest after I heard of his unbearable tirades, but who knows maybe he has mellowed somewhat...
I ended up with these as my summer school teachers. I also remeber some of the funniest anecdotes from Mr. Cardillo imaginable!!!
Its good however, to see someone like mr. Forrest still active an imparting wisdom.
Charles Russo
David Glazer
Kalmen Bloch
and a few lessons with Pasquale Cardillo
David Dow
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Author: steve
Date: 2003-07-16 01:52
studied summers at nmc 69-71
very demanding, got results, esp in tone and articulation dept
i remember him in neilsen serenato in vano
went on to study w/ squire, stowell, ormand, klug
s.
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