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Author: Mark P. Jasuta
Date: 2003-07-04 18:44
Hi,
I have been searching for the meaning of "8va". On the fingering chart it is given to notes from C#7 to G7. Can someone tell this dummy what it means in a constructive way?
Thanks
Mark
Post Edited (2003-07-04 23:59)
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2003-07-04 18:53
8va = 1 octave above what's written. Used when the number of ledger lines needed to write the note becomes less than comprehensible!
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Author: Webby
Date: 2003-07-05 01:27
Here's a dandy: One of my students had "8va basso" in a band part. I guessed they were aiming for 8vb. It was also odd because it was marked over c3, and if they did in fact want c2, that would have been *less* ledger lines.
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Author: Benni
Date: 2003-07-05 02:48
I saw "8va basso" on a BG solo transcription . . . It was under the bass cues, which were written on the treble clef.
Webby - what you mentioned does seem like an odd use of it!
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Author: Tom A
Date: 2003-07-05 10:26
I believe 8va is an abbreviation for "ottava". I know no Italian other than musical terms, so I don't know if "otta" means "eight". In my experience, 8va is generally assumed to mean higher unless indicated otherwise.
IMHO, logic says that 8vb (meaning lower, as we've heard) is just a corruption of 8va developed over time with the "b" indicating "bass", in the same sense that the term ff is clearly not directly derived from the word "fortissimo".
Here endeth the thesis. Cheers.
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Author: Mark P. Jasuta
Date: 2003-07-05 16:06
Is it possible that the "a" in 8va means above, and the "b" in 8vb means below the staff? That would make "8v" some sort of abbreviation for octave.
Regards
Mark
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2003-07-05 16:15
Mark P. Jasuta wrote:
> Is it possible that the "a" in 8va means above, and the "b" in
> 8vb means below the staff? That would make "8v" some sort of
> abbreviation for octave.
You're on the right track (by accident rather than design). Please go to http://www.google.com and type in "music terms 8va". You'll get enough hits to enough online music dictionaries your head will spin.
And most of them are downright accurate.
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Author: Mark P. Jasuta
Date: 2003-07-05 23:18
Mark C.
I did what you said, and came up with the following from http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/8va
"The notation 8va is sometimes seen in sheet music, meaning "play this an octave higher than written." 8va stands for ottava, the Italian word for octave. Sometimes 8va will also be used to indicate a passage is to be played an octave lower, although the similar notation 8vb (ottava basso) is more common."
Thanks again for your help
Mark J.
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