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Author: Laura
Date: 2003-04-17 17:11
What is better to have, a one or two screw ligature?
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Author: JMcAulay
Date: 2003-04-17 18:17
Laura, this is a question to which there is no universally accepted answer. Some even maintain the best ligatures have no screws at all (push-on, Velcro, string). The best ligature is always the one which helps you to sound best.
Regards,
John
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Author: BobD
Date: 2003-04-18 13:19
I did an "experiment" yesterday keeping everything the same except changing ligatures(I have a few!). All I got was confused since changing back to a ligature that seemed to make things better often yielded poor results. I do find single screw ones to easier to use, however, and metal ones make it easier to "stab" the tip during assembly. I've never mastered the assembly method in which you put the lig on first then insert the reed under it.
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Author: Ralph G
Date: 2003-04-18 13:31
I've always felt the best lig is the one that looks the coolest.
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Author: sfalexi
Date: 2003-04-19 01:41
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I've never mastered the assembly method in which you put the lig on first then insert the reed under it. What?! In my years of clarinet playing I never even thought of doing something like this! It's amazing how when you think you know AT LEAST the basics, something like this pops up and forces you to admit that you're still naive. Can someone please ellaborate on putting the lig on first (how, why, why not the other way)? Thank you.
Alexi
US Army Japan Band
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Author: Nick Angiolillo
Date: 2003-04-19 01:55
I was actually taught from the beginning that it was unwise to place your reed on the mouthpiece before you pull the ligature over. I suppose this was so that one doesn't accidentally nip the tip of the reed with the ligatur. My ligature is just about always on the mouthpiece and I pull the reed down through it handling it only by the thicker end. Works for me!
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Author: ron b
Date: 2003-04-19 02:22
I like my ancient tattered and battered Bonade with two screws, two 'rails', that's way older than Mark Charette -- because I think the name, Bo-nah'd, sounds astute.
I always put 'em on, reed and ligature, simultaneously... just like all my bandmates always did... 'cept for that guy with a piece of string.
Now, if only someone would just ask me, "What's that there ligature you're using, Ronzobonzo?" That would be cool.
- ron b -
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Author: BobD
Date: 2003-04-19 11:29
Can't imagine how to put 'em on simultaneously. The lig first procedure is to loosen the lig adequately and slip it on then insert the reed from the top (thick end down of course) under the lig. Adjust and tighten.
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Author: SJ
Date: 2003-04-19 16:21
This post and replies confirms that all topics on this board have been exhausted.
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Author: cyso_clarinetist
Date: 2003-06-20 05:12
In my opinion I like my optimum with one screw. It allows for a more even fit and it easy to take on and off.
- James
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Author: Morrigan
Date: 2003-06-20 05:45
Personally, I only noticed the slightest, tinyest micro-difference between the Optimum and my Bonade. I chose Bonade, cause it stops your audience staring at your lig and gets them actually listening to your playing.
I put reed on first - i simply hold it vaguely on the mpc, then slip the lig over and get everything into position. Sliding the reed down the facing has the slightest possibility of scrathching it! And I would never do that to my darling Greggy mpc!
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Author: BobD
Date: 2003-06-20 12:09
2 screws is best 'cause if you lose one you still got one
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Author: Hank Lehrer
Date: 2003-06-20 12:49
I like to use my modified Gigliotti which is black with a Scott Barrel (also black) and wear a black shirt. Looks very cool just like Ralph would like.
Seriously, I like my Joue Joulie, a single screw a lot as well.
HRL
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Author: hans
Date: 2003-06-20 14:00
There is a school of thought which believes that leaving the lower screw looser than the upper screw provides more freedom for the reed to vibrate. If that is true, and the reed needs this extra freedom to be effective, then two screws should, theoretically, be better than one. In practice I have not found a difference and use a one screw Optimum because it is convenient.
For assembly, the reed goes on the mouthpiece first; then slide the ligature over the mouthpiece and reed while being careful to avoid touching the tip of the reed. The ligature should be tightened enough to hold the reed in position. Overtightening the ligature screw(s) can cause the mouthpiece to become warped.
Hans
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Author: larryb
Date: 2003-06-20 16:00
two screws are better for the following:
if you make a mistake, squeek or are out of tune during performance you can furrow your brow and check one of the screws (tighten or loosen it, it doesn't matter); grimacing helps
when you make a second mistake, do same with other screw.
if you make more than two mistakes, you should get a ligature with three screws.
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Author: Clarinetpunk
Date: 2003-06-20 19:48
I would say its a matter of prefrence and trying different ones out to find which is best for you. Working in a music store ihev had the resources to try several different kinds. The most common that i am familiar with would be the Boade and Luyben, 2 screws, and the rovner, and optimun, both 1 screw. I have found the bonade to be rather bright i really liked the luyben and used it for 3 years before i got my rovner. It was very reed frindly and andn saounded well, not to muntion it was only like four dollars! And as for the rovner, the reed can slip to easily, especially in an orch. scene where you have 3 measures to switch from A to Bb etc. though i play with one for almost 5 years. I just recently switched to the Optimum and i love it.
I think i would also agree with the convenience factor it is much quicker.
Another thing about the 1 screw is that there is only one piece that is controlling the pressure on the reed which can be more even i think that two screws which can be at different pressures.
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Author: deepriver27
Date: 2003-06-28 10:55
Has anyone tried that light ligature from Pomarico - a thin band of metal with one screw? Saw it on wwbw's site and despite all of the strange devices sold as ligatures, this one seemed the most radical design I've seen in quite some time.
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Author: BobD
Date: 2003-06-28 13:23
Actually your thumb is the best ligature. No screws to turn, no storage/cap problem, comes with a player, easy on/off...... and more. Does require fingering ingenuity, however, nothing's perfect.
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