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Author: b3classic
Date: 2003-06-10 11:57
Hi. I play with the selmer c85 120 some weeks ago.My clarinets are Selmer Recital. I´m relatively satisfied. But I need advice about this mouthpiece, her better reeds, ligature... Please, comments from some mouthpiece companions. Thanks.
Joan Borràs
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Author: hans
Date: 2003-06-10 14:34
I play the same thing, using a Van Doren Optimum ligature with Zonda or Rico Royal reeds, which works for me. The only improvement I would wish for is an anti-gravity device because the Recital is fairly heavy and sometimes aggravates my tennis elbow. I've tried a neck strap but it's more nuisance than it's worth.
Hans
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Author: Phat Cat
Date: 2003-06-11 01:54
I am trying out a new C85 120 on my recently acquired Signature A with Gonzalez FOF 3.5 and Rovner dark ligature. This seems to be a good match. The combination offers very even resistance. It requires more air support but does seem to be a litlte more controlled that the VD M30 which also works well with the same setup. I can't get my Greg Smith mpc to speak in the clarion with this setup...perhaps it needs stronger reeds.
I am a big fan of the Gonzalez FOF and think they should work well for you since your equipment is similar. The Doctor (one of this site's sponsors) sells them at a fair price with minimal shipping cost and delay.
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Author: D Dow
Date: 2003-06-11 02:12
I play a set of Selmer Recital clarinets (matched set) and have found most Selmer pieces most unsatisfactory.
Give the B40 Vandoren a shot, and see what happens. I like the ring it gives on this model clarinet...Recitals are the top clarinets for me personally.
David Dow
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Author: Gordon (NZ)
Date: 2003-06-11 05:47
C85 120 is a pretty poplular mouthpiece among my customers.
Post Edited (2003-06-13 10:32)
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Author: donald
Date: 2003-06-12 12:08
Gordon, there isn't a single prof player in NZ using this mouthpiece, and certainly none i know of in the USA- although Frank Celata from the SSO claims they are his favourite, he is always unsatisfied and looking for something different. Murray Khouri got some of his students to buy them a few years back, but then NONE of them have gigs, do they?
i'm sure someone likes them, but it's not a club loaded with top players as far as i can see.
donald
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Author: Paul Croshaw
Date: 2003-06-12 15:37
The C85 does not sound good on my Selmer. I use a Blayman m/p. But that's me.
Paul
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Author: geo
Date: 2003-06-12 16:43
Hello b3classic, I would suggest looking in on Sherman Friedland's Corner, he has also professionally played, among others, Selmer Recitals with C85 mouthpieces and has written a bit on the subject. His articles and tips are always an enjoyable read (check his articles on intonation for more info on the Recital & C85 mpc):
Sherman Friedland's Corner
Selmer Recital and C85 Mouthpieces
On my *smaller bore* Selmer I have personally also had good results with a hand picked C85 120 (I also have a backup C85 which I don't care for as much and my intonation on both is not very satisfactory on my other large bore S9 restoration project). I usually use a Rovner Dark ligature. Since I'm struggling after a 25-30 year break my reed choice is probably not that interesting for you (at the moment 2.5 AW Boehm French Cut, after a bit of aggrevation with some moody VDs - but that may have just been the weather, or the angle at which the moonlight hits the earth or just me).
hope this helps
-geoff
Post Edited (2003-06-12 17:05)
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Author: Mark Pinner
Date: 2003-06-13 07:15
I have been using them for over 20 years, when they were brought out to suit the 10G clarinet, and I am onto my fourth and don't play a 10G. Theyy work fine on any of my horns and I just use a standard Vandoren lig, the nickel plated one which replaced the original Selmer after 20 years of service. The cap is also Selmer. They are bright with Vandoren reeds both V12 and blue box. I find Lavoz hard and Rico Royal, 3 1/2 or 4, give the best results in my climate. Zonda are a waste of time and money for a professional player, too much BS about strengths, which paddock, who cut the cane etc. etc.. Always remember the primary function of a ligature is to hold the reed on!
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2003-06-13 11:51
Mark Pinner wrote:
> Zonda are a waste of time
> and money for a professional player, too much BS about
> strengths, which paddock, who cut the cane etc. etc..
So, those working artists who play on Zondas are wasting their time? I guess you should go and tell them about it.
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