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Author: msroboto
Date: 2003-06-12 02:38
I just got a bevelled edge knife. I am right handed and it looks like
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Did i get the correct knife to hold in my right hand?
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Author: Gordon (NZ)
Date: 2003-06-12 06:10
Ah! Are you looking form the handle end or the point end?
BTW I've never used a single bevel knife.
What do you perceive as its specialized use?
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Author: msroboto
Date: 2003-06-12 09:03
I am looking from the point end.
I am just starting to get into really adjusting reeds. I have read Larry Guy's handbook. He talks about using both a bevel knife and a hollow ground knife. So I'm gathering the gear. That's how I ended up with the bevel knife. I'm not sure how much I will use it in practice.
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Author: BobD
Date: 2003-06-12 16:30
I believe it's a left-handed knife. However, scrape the reed with the tip towards you and holding the knife in your right hand and scraping from heel to tip and you'll get good results ,,,,,,,OR return it and exchange.
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Author: Dan Shusta
Date: 2003-06-12 22:26
msroboto,
May I ask you where you obtained your single bevel knife? I have been looking around for one and have not yet found a good source.
Thank you in advance.
Dan
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Author: msroboto
Date: 2003-06-13 03:58
ok i'm still not sure i got a knife that can be worked using my right hand. i assume the beveled edge should be up when i hold the handle in my right hand and it's not. the beveled edge is towards me.
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Author: John Scorgie
Date: 2003-06-13 05:37
Assuming your diagram is a view from the point end, that is indeed a right hand knife. Understand that the bevel is on the underside when you use the knife, sort of the same way you would use a wood chisel (if you were using it properly).
Also understand that few knives of any sort are really sharp when new. Most edges need at least a touch up.
Unless you are knowledgeable about the technical side of sharpening, you are well advised to take your knife to a really good sharpening service. If they are nice guys they will even show you how to maintain your knife edge between sharpenings.
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Author: john gibson
Date: 2003-06-13 06:36
Your knife is "left handed". Send it back. As a woodworker I can tell you the bevelled edge should be forward and you scrape the wood (reeds) away or toward the top.
John
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Author: Gordon (NZ)
Date: 2003-06-13 10:37
Surely if it is used for scraping, then which side the bevel is, and indeed whether it is bevellled on one side or two, is irrelevant.
What is relevant is the included angle of the edge, and the angle at which the blade is held???? Or have I missed something?
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Author: BobD
Date: 2003-06-13 12:56
Indeed a very interesting set of opinions and still controversial. For the sake of discussion my opinion is that it is indeed a right handed knife because in scraping reeds(which is the purpose of this knife) the "knife edge" should be the leading edge while the bevel edge trails. Afraid this is in contradiction with Gordon's opinion which I usually agree with. Hope we get a final opinion that we can all agree on.
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Author: BobD
Date: 2003-06-13 14:10
I recently purchased a Case brand "Sod Buster Jr." pocket knife which is,surprisingly to me, hollow ground. Such a knife can be used for scraping reeds with either hand.....and for other purposes too.
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Author: Liquorice
Date: 2003-06-13 14:41
I am left-handed and specifically bought a left-handed reed knife. The bevelled side faces away from me when I'm scraping towards the tip. Just thought I'd add to the confusion!
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Author: ron b
Date: 2003-06-13 20:00
Are single edge razor blades out of fashion? A package of 100 industrial grade blades costs under $10(USD) at home improvement centers. I think 100 razor blades could scrape a lotta reeds.
- r![[cool]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/cool.gif) n b -
(...admittedly, an unsophisticated bloke)
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Author: BobD
Date: 2003-06-13 22:17
ronb: there's nothing out of fashion with single edge blades at all , I own a million of 'em. Perfectly usable as far as I'm concerned. I wouldn't own a knife specifically for reeds myself. To each his own. I also own some double edge safety razor blades. Broken in half longitudinally they work fine and are even sharper than doubles......and you get twice as many.
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Author: Gordon (NZ)
Date: 2003-06-14 00:19
The devil's advocate in me says you could not possibly use a razor blade because it has two bevels.
But then I am still waiting for an explanation of what I have missed.
A woodworking chisel has a bevel on only one side, but that is fro a good reason. Sometimes the worker want to lie the flat side of the chisel along a groove in the timber so that when it is used it removes only high spots and has no chance of digging further into the timber. The rest of the time the worker wants the handle above the workpiece, so the bevel side is face-down. But scraping reeds is a different story altogether, being totally non-fussy about which side the bevel is, how many bevels. Could some enlightened person please explain.
BTW a so called "right hand" blade used right handed with a motion scraping away from the body, would become a "left hand" blade for the user who prefers to right-handedly scrape TOWARDS his body.
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Author: BobD
Date: 2003-06-14 13:17
Gordon: you might want to check out some woodworking literature regarding "scrapers" per se and also scraping type wood turning tools since neither have bevels.
One thing that might be clouding the issue is, I believe, that the person who opened this article bought the knife for scraping purposes rather than for making reeds from scratch.
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