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Author: wyatt
Date: 2003-05-29 05:08
of the big four classic composers-bach, beehoven,chopin, and mozart how would you rate them from one to four. please do your voting from a clarinet point of view.g
bob gardner}ÜJ
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Author: Craig C
Date: 2003-05-29 10:47
From a clarinet point of view, there's not much to say about bach unfortunately. :( Ditto w/ Chopin. Although, I've started playing some of the Bach violin sonatas arranged for clarinet and they're absolutely gorgeous. It's too bad that clarinet wasn't really around then. Just in terms of symphonic music I'd have to say
1) Beethoven
2) Mozart
3) Bach
4) Chopin
though you've got to love Mozart operas and chamber music. It's a tough call!
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Author: Mark Pinner
Date: 2003-05-29 11:49
I think that you have all missed one crucial issue. Bach, J.S., that is was a Baroque composer. Baroque meaning the musical period that occured between 1600 and 1750, or thereabouts,; the word Baroque being derived from the similar architectural term meaning overly embellished. Chopin, also, was from a different period, i.e. the Romantic Period. Beethoven was also considered a transitional composer between the Classical and Romantic periods.
PS> One of the most defining characteristics of the Baroque period is the doctrine of affections, i.e. the first evidence of emotive expressions being incorporated into art music. Beethoven was considered a little ahead of the classical because of his departure from convention i.e. the use of Scherzo movements instead of minuets and trios. Just to confuse the dancers I suppose. There are other Bachs. C.P.E., W.F., W.C. (he was crap) etc. who fall mainly into the Rococco or early classical periods. Interesting stuff but very theoretical and technically hard for little effect.
Sorry to be so verbose!!!!!!!
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Author: Jim E.
Date: 2003-05-30 04:37
That word "classic/ classical" has interesting usage. Techinically of course Mark is right, and it is applied only to a specific period. In actual usage it usually means music more "serious" than say bubble gum rock!
Of the 4 presented, you hit 3 of my favorites, though I have many favorites. I usually leave Chopin for my pianist wife. Interestingly, only Mozart is really considered a major composer of clarinet literature.
As for starting a discussion with 4 composers, I wouldn't even be able to get down to 4 at the end!
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Author: sömeone
Date: 2003-05-30 13:02
Yes the classical debate is still on even till this day but lets just say that people with no in dept musical knowledge will actually say that all orchestral music (piano, clarinet etc.) is classical music. Well we can't blame them but its just a general word to describe non-pop music, i believe.....
Well ignoring the fact that Bach is a Baroque composer and Chopin is well
technically from the romantic period......hers my point of view:
1. Mozart (Although i would prefer beethoven to stand in this place but from the clarinet point of view....well....)
2. Bach (although most of his works were not for clarinet, the transcriptions were amazing and suit the clarinet in certain aspects, therefore a 2nd for him.)
3. Beethoven (Heard a few of his solo passages for clarinet in his orchestral works.)
4.Chopin (no idea what he wrote for clarinet, examples anybody?)
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Author: GBK
Date: 2003-05-30 13:36
sömeone wrote: "...Bach (although most of his works were not for clarinet ..."
Bach never used a clarinet (or any single reed version of it) in any of his works...GBK
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Author: Todd W.
Date: 2003-05-30 15:55
GBK --
Didn't I hear that Dieter Klocker just found some?
;+)))
Todd W.
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Author: wyatt
Date: 2003-05-30 16:09
mark twain said that a CLASSIC is somework that everyone owns and nobody reads (or was that reed).Ä
bob gardner}ÜJ
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Author: beejay
Date: 2003-05-31 12:33
I don't think it's helpful to grade musicians like football (soccer) teams. At different stages if your life, different musicians (and poets and philosphers) will speak to you differently.
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Author: sömeone
Date: 2003-06-01 02:58
hmmm good point beejay.....lets just say that more or less this famous classical composers have contributed a lot to music.
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