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Author: Morrigan
Date: 2003-05-18 11:59
I need some help with establishing pitch in my head. I have good relative pitch and excellent timbral pitch, however, hearing a few single notes out of tune is a big problem for me whie playing, because I can't tell which direction it is in (Sharp or flat), so I can't really adjust. I need to be able to hear something, and adjust very quickly. It's been a problem for a while, but I'm only just beginning to hear it.
Thanks guys, =]
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Author: krawfish3x
Date: 2003-05-18 12:48
what you can do is play with a tuner sometimes and check certain notes. its a good idea to do this during longtones to check for pitch tendencies on your instrument.
an easy way to tell if you are sharp or flat is to listen to the tone of the note. if it sounds bright and metal-like it's most likely sharp. if its dull its most likely flat.
if youre in a group you can pop in and out while playing to see if you are the one in or out of tune.
hope this helps.
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Author: John O'Janpa
Date: 2003-05-18 12:58
What has helped me to hear whether I'm flat or sharp on a given note (and coincidentally helped me to learn my setup's intonation tendencies) is to play along with the tone generator on my Korg tuner.
First I tune my warmed up clarinet in the conventional manner.
Next I generate a tone, then intentionally lip the note through as wide a range as I can while listening carefully. I also play scales while using a generated tone as a drone. This has helped to train my ears to hear beats and whether I'm high or low.
Sometimes I'll play along with television music (Columbo's good, as are many commercials) intentionally playing both sharp and flat, much as I do with the tone generator.
I'm no expert, but I have definetely developed a much better feel for which notes are likely to be sharp or flat, and the ability to hear which way they are off so I can quickly correct them.
When playing in a group with "live" people and "real" music, you get to use these skills even more, since you must adjust to the group whether it's in agreement with a tuner or not.
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Author: Morrigan
Date: 2003-05-19 11:35
On the note of tuners (no pun intended!), what's a good tuner to get? I have one that will just enable you to calibrate it, as well as select the note you want. But is there one that will play any tone you want?
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Author: John O'Janpa
Date: 2003-05-19 18:46
I use a Korg CA30 which can be found for around $20 plus shipping.
It will generate an octave of tones as well as do auto tuning.
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Author: jez
Date: 2003-05-19 20:59
I'm looking for a tuner that will generate pitches through several octaves. The only ones I've seen do just one octave, or if more, not above A5. I'm interested in hearing the notes in the top octave of the clarinet, Bb5-6 as I believe these need to be pitched sharper than a tuning-machine would suggest in order to sound right.
Anyone know of one?
jez
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Author: Liquorice
Date: 2003-05-19 21:49
I use a cheap electronic keyboard to practise tuning. All you need is something that can sustain the tones you want without vibrato. Look for a second-hand Yamaha keyboard, and check that you can calibrate it to A=440 or 442 or whatever you play. It's the best tuner you can get!
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