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Author: wjk
Date: 2003-04-17 17:57
Yes, I know there is no 5th symphony. But I recently read that before Brahms became ill, one of his colleagues wanted to take him to Norway to inspire his 5th Symphony. If this were ever composed, what do you think it would be like?
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Author: Ralph G
Date: 2003-04-17 18:01
Norwegian?›
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Author: GBK
Date: 2003-04-17 19:11
Considering that Brahms avoided traveling by boat his entire life, it might have been quite difficult for Grieg to convince him to go...GBK
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Author: Henry
Date: 2003-04-17 20:43
And if he had gone, I guess his 5th would have become his "Unfinished". With apologies to any Norwegian BBmembers, Norway (though beautiful) can be pretty dark and depressing, if you're not used to it, especially if you are sick to start with.
Henry
Post Edited (2003-04-17 21:44)
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Author: Tom A
Date: 2003-04-18 05:17
Sorry, all the funny things have been said. So, just as an interesting sideline, the Schoenberg orchestration of Brahms' g minor piano 4tet is referred to sometimes as "Brahms' 5th".
Yes, I know the quartet is a work that predates his symphonies, so it isn't even a good lighthearted nickname. And Schoenberg used full percussion, brass mutes, etc, when Brahms' most colourful percussion was to use a triangle in one movement of one symphony. But it's still exciting stuff, especially the final Hungarian rondo.
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Author: Ted
Date: 2003-04-18 12:25
<<one of his colleagues wanted to take him to Norway to inspire his 5th Symphony. If this were ever composed, what do you think it would be like?>>
Sibelius with an emotional hangover.
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Author: Mike Blinn
Date: 2003-04-19 14:51
Last month, I heard the Hartford Symphony Orchestra perform Brahms' Piano Quartet in G Minor, Op. 24, orchestrated by Arnold Schoenberg. As a lover of Brahms' four symphonies, I was very impressed and delighted by this relatively unknown symphonic work.
I quote from the program notes (by Dr. Richard E. Rodda):
...In a letter written on March 18, 1939 to Alfred Frankenstein, music critic of the San Francisco Chronicle, Schoenberg wrote:
"Here are a few remarks about the 'Brahms.'
1. I like this piece.
2. It is seldom played.
3. It is always very badly played...
My intentions:
1. To remain strickly in the style of Brahms, and not go farther than he himself would have gone if he lived today.
2. To watch carefully all these laws which Brahms obeyed and not violate such, which are known to musicians educated in his environment..."
I enjoyed this work so much, I would like to get a recording of it. Can anyone suggest an available version?
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