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 "Oil "
Author: CharmOne 
Date:   2003-04-09 21:18

I was wondering if any of you can tell me about the body and the keys. Like how long should I put oil for the body? Will more key oil do more good?
I'm just wondering...

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 Re: "Oil "
Author: PJ 
Date:   2003-04-09 21:43

Use only in moderation. Too much key oil could be a mess. I think The Doctor needs to make a house call.

You there Doc?

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 Re: "Oil "
Author: funkymunky 
Date:   2003-04-10 00:20

I am sure it is not a good idea at all to use Key Oil on the body. Only use Bore oil. Key oil is made for keys, bore oil is made for bores. Also I have read somewhere that while applying key oil to keys make sure that none spills on the body and to wipe it off immediatly.
Keys only need just a little drop probably not even once a month. What i like to do is take out the screw wipe off all the crud and put a nice drop on the threads, keeps the threads from getting stuck in the future and while putting screw back in, most of the oil on the threads just wipes in the shaft oiling it over again. Most keys you should hold in place while cleaning and oiling, makes assembly easier.
Of course TOO MUCH key oil is USELESS. I havent messed with wooden clarinets yet so I dont know much about bore oil.

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 Re: "Oil "
Author: L. Omar Henderson 
Date:   2003-04-10 00:58

My prescription - do not use it if you do not know why, when, and how much. The best house call is to a good technician who will know the answers to the previous questions. More adverse reactions are caused by the improper application and amounts of oil (either on wood or on keys) then are justified by the perceived symptoms. Usually less medicine (oil) is better.
The Doctor

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 Re: "Oil "
Author: Clarence 
Date:   2003-04-10 04:12

CharmOne

This is a subject that everyone has a different opinion. For my personal horns, I always apply bore oil equally to the bore and the outside of the horn. As for key oil, I use SAE 90 weight gear oil. I little dab will do you.

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 Re: "Oil "
Author: terry 
Date:   2003-04-10 10:42

more info at:

http://www.naylors-woodwind-repair.com click on "publications"

terry
http://sterkel.org click on <clarinet>



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Author: JMcAulay 
Date:   2003-04-10 18:54

I've not had time yet to check Terry's links, and they might say the same, BUT....

Oiling the keys is something that should be done almost never. A properly adjusted Clarinet should have free key motion with no oil at all. Oil isn't put there to make things move freely, it's to keep the parts from wearing excessively. Oil is a dustcatcher, so too much oily surface area can collect more dust and cause even further wear, defeating the purpose of the oil. IMO, oil sdhould be applied after the moving parts are cleaned and adjusted properly, and at no other time. If something becomes hard to move, take it off and clean it, adjust it, then oil it. Or see your excellent technician. If you are in such a hurry you can't afford the time to do it right and just *have* to oil something, have the stick fixed by an expert soon.

Bore oil should be applied if and when needed. There have been just short of a zillion threads on this topic, and a search will let you read them.

Regards,
John



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 Re: "Oil "
Author: jim lande 
Date:   2003-04-11 02:03

For those who don't know, the Doctor sells key oil. I sweat excessively and my glasses hinges used to seize up every two or three months. I would free them with sewing machine oil. The Doctor's oil lasts three to four times as long between oilings.

Moisture does bad things to hinge and pivot screws. Rust is the enemy. A thin coating protects the surface. I like to remove the screws and keys so that I can clean off all of the old oil and then get new oil to coat all of the steel surfaces and the insides of the hinge tubes. I wipe away any excess once the instrument is back together.(I know that there is some risk of the volitile components of oil evaporating over time and leaving the key gummed up. I have not had this happen.

Don't get any oil on the pads -- it can ruin them.

It helps to have an oiler with a long needle rather than something with a plastic tip.

I can see why the Doctor recomends letting a pro do the oiling




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