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Author: Mark P. Jasuta
Date: 2003-03-16 19:05
Hi all,
Does anyone know where to get 1mm thick sheet cork. 1/32" (.8mm) is too thin and 3/64" (1.2mm) has to be sanded. I use this for tenon corks on french and metal clarinets (it is however too thin for mouthpiece corks). This size works perfect for me, the only sanding needed is the end you cut off. I prefer the factory finished surface to a sanded surface (looks better and seems to stand up better). I have enough to do 1 more clarinet, but for the life of me can't remember where I got it.
Mark
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Author: Wes
Date: 2003-03-17 02:43
Check with Ferree's on the web. They have various thicknesses of cork available but may not have the thickness you seem to want. Good luck!
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Author: jbutler ★2017
Date: 2003-03-17 03:16
SA Rosas, Portugal....but I don't have their address handy. It's on my "other' computer and I need to get by Outlook address book copied to this one. I'll try to get you an update in a few days.
jbutler
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Author: Mark P. Jasuta
Date: 2003-03-17 15:33
Still can't find a 1mm thick cork sheet. It's funny that a vast majority of clarinets are manufactured in countries that use the metric system; England, France, Japan, etc. You would think sheet cork would be more available to support these instruments. I guess we are just so used to using 3/32 (1.2mm) cork and sanding .2mm off.
Mark
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Author: Synonymous Botch
Date: 2003-03-17 23:39
I dunno about the trained professionals, but I was taught to 'pound' the cork before use to make it more pliable and easier to bend around tenons...
I wonder what the overall thickness is after the treatment?
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Author: Gordon (NZ)
Date: 2003-03-17 23:46
Music Center in Italy have it:
http://www.musiccenterspa.com/Produzione/frame_contact_ing.htm
So does Eduardo Macedos at Sa Rosas in Portugal.
eduardomacedo@mail.telepac.pt
As far as I know both these places stock metric sizes, e.g. 0.4, 0.6, 0.8, 1.0, 1.2, 1.5 ...mm
Be aware of the following however:
1. It is pretty unusal for cork of any thickness not to need some sanding to size after installation.
2. If you order say 1.2 mm the sheet may well vary form 1.0 to 1.3 mm.
3. The American stockists such as Ferrees usually stock 3/64" which is 1.19 mm which is close enough to what you want.
4. In recent years the quality of cork sheets has been sadly lacking. It has been common for me to throw away entire sheets as unsuitable for a reasonable quality tenon cork. In answer to this situation several suppliers have been, in the last year, stocking a much higher grade of "filled" cork, far bettter than what has been around for some time. As far as I know, this higher grade is so far only available in 1/16", 1.5 mm, or 1.6 mm (all much the same) If you order thinner sheets even of so-called AAAA quality thinner, filled or unfilled cork, there is a good chance that the qaulity will be very poor.
5. Another option is to try a new, black, non-composite, synthetic cork that is being offered by Kraus, in several densities and thicknesses. Kraus supplies only to professional repairers.
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Author: jbutler ★2017
Date: 2003-03-18 03:58
Thanks to Gordon I don't have to get the SA Rosas email address to you!
jbutler
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Author: Gordon (NZ)
Date: 2003-03-18 10:33
Synonymous Botch, I don't know how that pounding idea started. I have never had a problem of getting the cork around the tenon, even for a skinny bassoon bocal.
If cork was that brittle, that old, that full of splits or holes, that sad a condition, I wouldn't use it.
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Author: Mark P. Jasuta
Date: 2003-03-18 13:54
Thicker cork is harder to bend around tenons sometimes. I however do not beat it into submission. I have a wood roller about 1 inch wide and roll the cork when needed. A standard rolling pin would probably work also.
Mark
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Author: Synonymous Botch
Date: 2003-03-18 19:30
But the pounding is much more satisfying...
I just think of a Kiwi luau and away I GO!
(I generally use a piece of 20mm diameter dowel to get the curve after.)
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Author: Gordon (NZ)
Date: 2003-03-18 22:35
My Oxford dictionary says a luau is a Hawaian-style party.
So I don't think there is such a thing as a KIWI luau!
But if your wild imaginings help the cork, so be it.
How about thinking of pounding paua to tenderize them before eating. What a delicacy!
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Author: jim lande
Date: 2003-03-19 01:16
OK, who has tried the Kraus black, non-composite, synthetic cork? In years past folks have not liked synthetic cork. How about this stuff?
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Author: Gordon (NZ)
Date: 2003-03-19 10:09
So far I have found it good for clarinet thumb rests and crowsfeet. I have not quite been game to experiment on tenons yet, but some day....
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