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 most emotional orchestral piece
Author: wjk 
Date:   2003-03-17 03:04

Having been listening to Kodaly all weekend, I'm curious what BB readers find to be the most "emotional" orchestral piece. By this, I mean what pieces seem to pierce your heart directly and penetrate the depths of your soul?

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 Re: most emotional orchestral piece
Author: Mark Charette 
Date:   2003-03-17 03:10

Gorecki: Symphony No. 3 "Symphony of Sorrowful Songs" as performed by
London Sinfonietta, conducted by David Zinman, and Dawn Upshaw, soprano.

One of the very few recordings I've bought the same day I heard it.

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 Re: most emotional orchestral piece
Author: Keil 
Date:   2003-03-17 03:21

Scheherazade Rimsky Korsakov
Mother Goose Suite Ravel
Firebird Stravinsky

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 Re: most emotional orchestral piece
Author: ken 
Date:   2003-03-17 03:28

Carmina Burana - Orff
Requiem Mass KV626 - Mozart
Night on Bald Mountain - Mussorgsky
Piano Concerto No.3 - Prokofiev

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 Re: most emotional orchestral piece
Author: Brandon 
Date:   2003-03-17 03:29

I could make a really long list...and considering that I am kinda bored right now I will!

Beethoven PC #3 mvt. 2
Brahms 1 mvt. 4
Brahms 2 mvt. 1
Brahms 3 (the whole darn thing!)
Bruckner 9 mvt. 1- nice little section in the middle with strings
Dvorak Stabat Mater
Mahler most symphonies at some point, part. mvt. 3 of sym 6
Rachmaninov PC 2
Rachmaninov Sym 2 mvt. 3
Ravel Mother Goose Suite
Schubert Sym 2 mvt 2
Schubert Unfinished
Sibelius 2 mvt. 4
Sibelius 5 last mvt.
Strauss Don Juan
TCHAIKOVSKY SYM 6 MVT 4
Wagner Siegfried Idyll

There are many more than this that I can think of that I just adore for sheer beauty. These are what I could think up of off the top of my head. if you want to go opera too...just let me know. Nothing like the Death of Butterfly!



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 Re: most emotional orchestral piece
Author: Jim E. 
Date:   2003-03-17 04:02

Orchestral pieces...

Mascagni, Intermetzo from Cavalaria Rusticana
Handel, Pastoral Symphony from Messiah
Faure, Pavane
Rodgers, Victory at Sea (yes, TV music!)
Gershwin, Rhapsody in Blue

Choral pieces...

Handel, Coronation anthem, "Zadok the Priest"
Faure, Requiem (all, but esp. the "La Crimosa")
Verdi, Requiem (All, but esp. "Ingimisco")
(sorry about the spelling, too lazy to look it up!)
(Interesting that the 2 requiems are 2 drastically diferent settings of essentially the same text.)
Wilhowsky (arr.) Battle Hymn (but really only this version)

Piano pieces...

Beethoven "Moonlight Sonata"
Debussy, Clair de Lune

Organ piece...

Widor, Tocotta - Symphony 5, movement 5

Broadway piece...

Rodgers & Hart, Slaughter on 10th Avenue from "On your Toes"

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 Re: most emotional orchestral piece
Author: DAVE 
Date:   2003-03-17 04:03

I fall to pieces during the final scene of Der Roenkavalier and the Suite version also. I just played Mahler 2 last night, and while the performance was not too good, the choir at the end of the piece left me speachless for hours after. And the best of all has to be the end of Figaro--too many tears!!!

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 Re: most emotional orchestral piece
Author: Morrigan 
Date:   2003-03-17 08:07

I agree with Mark on the Gorecki, I can't listen to it often, I cry. I mean I really really weep at it, it's incredibly beautiful!



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 Re: most emotional orchestral piece
Author: graham 
Date:   2003-03-17 11:55

Elgar's Apostles, part two from the ascension scene to the end
Last movement of Tchaik pathetique
Purcell's Dido's Lament

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 Re: most emotional orchestral piece
Author: D Dow 
Date:   2003-03-17 12:25

Elgar Nimrod

David Dow

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 Re: most emotional orchestral piece
Author: R13A 
Date:   2003-03-17 13:10

yes. as Ken indicated......

Night on the Bare Mountain - Mussorgsky

also a nice little piecee for clarinet/piano is Potpourri Opus 80 by Louis Spohr.......a very 'calming' piece. Rarely recorded but done so by the late John Denman.

regards
dennis

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 Re: most emotional orchestral piece
Author: David Spiegelthal 2017
Date:   2003-03-17 14:15

Josef Suk --- "Asrael" Symphony (especially the slow movement)
Shostakovich --- Some of the symphonic movements (e.g. from #8, #10)
Mahler --- lots of examples
Berg --- "Wozzeck" opera music, Violin Concerto
Khatchaturian --- Violin Concerto (has been done on flute and sax also)

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 Re: most emotional orchestral piece
Author: larryb 
Date:   2003-03-17 14:43

Puccini - E lucevan le stelle, Tosca
Mozart - canzonetta su l'arbria (sp?), Figaro
Beethoven - Adagio from #9
Mozart - Soave..., Cosi fan tutti
Brahms - clarinet quintet - second movement

and,

Louis Armstrong, West End Blues (1928)

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 Re: most emotional orchestral piece
Author: Ed 
Date:   2003-03-17 14:50

Certainly many good choices above. One piece that is incredibly powerful and emotional is the Corigliano Symphony #1

Ed

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 Re: most emotional orchestral piece
Author: edk 
Date:   2003-03-17 15:45

Beethoven - Sym #3: Marcia funebre



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 Re: most emotional orchestral piece
Author: Brad 
Date:   2003-03-17 16:22

All of these seem to get my emotions going in one way or another:

Mahler 6,9
Brahms 1,4, Violin Concerto, Piano Concerto 1,2
Stravinsky - Firebird, Rite of Spring
Beethoven 6, 9, Piano Concerto 4,5, Violin Concerto
Shostakovich 5, 9, Cello Concerto
Sibelius Violin Concerto
Mozart 39,40,41, Clarinet Concerto
Dvorak - 9, Cello Concerto
Ravel - Mother Goose
R Strauss - Also Sprach Zarathustra, Death and Transfiguration

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 Re: most emotional orchestral piece
Author: Ted 
Date:   2003-03-17 17:11

I could list some of the great choices that have been named, but here are a few more that haven't :

Rachmaninov - Vespers
Barber - Serenade for Strings
Billie Holiday - Strange Fruit

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 Re: most emotional orchestral piece
Author: Joel K. 
Date:   2003-03-17 20:20

Copland - Appalachian Spring

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 Re: most emotional orchestral piece
Author: Vick 
Date:   2003-03-17 21:05

come, sweet death

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 Re: most emotional orchestral piece
Author: Stéphane 
Date:   2003-03-17 22:05

R. Strauss: Ver Letze lieder, particularly by either E. Schwartzkopf or Jessy Norman

After you've heard a work by Mozart, the silence that follows, this is still by Mozart.



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 Re: most emotional orchestral piece
Author: ALOMARvelous12 
Date:   2003-03-17 22:28

Chopin's Piano Sonata #2 - First Movement
Chopin's Etudes - "Revolutionary" "Torrent" "Winter Wind" and "Ocean"
Chopin's Ballade #4
Chopin's Nocturnes Opus 9's, 15's, and 72

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 Re: most emotional orchestral piece
Author: ALOMARvelous12 
Date:   2003-03-17 22:31

And oh yeah Johannes Brahms' G minor Rhapsody Opus 79 Number 2 and Rachmaninoff's Prelude in C# minor.

Oops, just remembered the topic - "most emotional ORCHESTRAL piece"

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 Re: most emotional orchestral piece
Author: Nick Angiolillo 
Date:   2003-03-17 23:01

I'm surprised no one has mentioned the Tchaikovsky Violin Concerto yet.. that is by far the most emotional piece I've ever heard--Especially when you consider the emotional state the composer was in at the time.

Aside from that...

Brahms 3, first Cello Sonata
Beethoven's 23rd Piano Sonata
Dvorak 6 and 8
Elgar's Cello Concerto
Dvorak's Cello Concerto
Mozart's 3rd Piano Concerto

And just about anything by Rachmaninov :-) The "Isle of the Dead" and his Piano Preludes in particular jump out, as well as his symphonies.

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 Re: most emotional orchestral piece
Author: PJ 
Date:   2003-03-18 03:32

Oliver Messiaen's "Quator Pour Le Fin du Temps"

Okay, this technically isn't an orchestral piece, but after learing some background on the piece (Sherman's Corner has some good notes) I saw it in a whole different light. I heard the clarinet solo for the first time at a recital given by my first college clarinet instructor years ago and I was spellbound to the end with tears in my eyes. Just before she began the piece, she told the history of the piece and what each movement meant. BREATHTAKING!

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 Re: most emotional orchestral piece
Author: AClarinet62 
Date:   2003-03-18 03:48

Had the opportunity to meet John Corigliano and work with him on Gazebo Dances (which I believe is Symphony No. 1 although I may be mistaken). Movement III is wonderful... exhausting, but fantastic.

Otherwise, I'd go with Tchaikovsky No. 5, Mvts I and II.

And the clarinet solo with the flute at the very beginning of Act III in "Carmen" was the first live piece of music that ever brought me to tears.

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 Re: most emotional orchestral piece
Author: Wayne Thompson 
Date:   2003-03-18 05:23

Beethoven's 3rd
It was one of the first orchestral pieces I became aware of. The first movement was background music to the Bell Telephone Science Series program on the weather (as I remember), and then I discovered it amongst my Dad's records....
The music went right home; if I was left on a desert island with one recording, or with one score, or with one clarinet part, or with a piano and one piano reduction, that would be what I would want to have.

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 Re: most emotional orchestral piece
Author: javier garcia m 
Date:   2003-03-18 12:21

Bach, St. Matthew's Passion
Beethoven, 5,6,7 and 9th symphonies
Mozart, The Magic Flute, K581 and K622
Rimsky-Korsakov Scheherezade
Stravinsky, The Rite of the Spring
and many others

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 Re: most emotional orchestral piece
Author: David 
Date:   2003-03-19 16:47

Mozart Masonic Funeral Music

David

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 Re: most emotional orchestral piece
Author: rbell96 
Date:   2003-03-19 17:20

Mozart Piano Concerto No. 20 in D Minor.

Rob

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 Re: most emotional orchestral piece
Author: Clare 
Date:   2003-03-19 19:36

Beethoven 5: 2nd movement (oh to be a cellist & play that!)

Mozart K622: 2nd movement esp

Telemann Trumpet Conc in D: 1st movement

Copland Clarinet Concerto: esp the beginning

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 Re: most emotional orchestral piece
Author: Jim 
Date:   2003-03-19 19:59

As an ex sailor I would have to say:

The Navy Hymn.



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 Re: most emotional orchestral piece
Author: JMcAulay 
Date:   2003-03-19 23:38


Very good so far, but I'll go with some Russian stuff no one mentioned yet. How about:

--Russian Easter (Prokofiev)

--Le Grande Porte du Kiev (Moussorgsky/Ravel)

--Second Piano Concerto (Rachmaninoff)

Regards,
John

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 Re: most emotional orchestral piece
Author: adrian lichter 
Date:   2003-03-20 01:32

Beginning of 1st mvt. of Mahler 9th. Unbelivable use of harmony and orchestration.

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 Re: most emotional orchestral piece
Author: lemilie 
Date:   2003-03-24 23:57

Messiaen - Quartet for the End of Time..

and Pachelbel - Canon in D

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 Re: most emotional orchestral piece
Author: Brandon 
Date:   2003-03-25 00:29

Very good so far, but I'll go with some Russian stuff no one mentioned yet. How about:
--Second Piano Concerto (Rachmaninoff)

I did say that...btw, I thought Russian Easter was by Rimsky Korsakov. If Prokofiev did one, I was not aware.

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 Re: most emotional orchestral piece
Author: diz 
Date:   2003-03-25 01:55

I've played Bach's St Matthew Passion (viola) a couple of times (orchestra two). And on each occasion I had tears in my eyes come the end where the monumental e-minor chorus returns.

no other music has caused me to cry whilst playing.

thanks

diz, Sydney

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 Re: most emotional orchestral piece
Author: ctt489 
Date:   2003-03-25 02:33

Hanson "Romantic" mvt. II
Heck the whole damn symphony.

Bach St. Mathews Passion

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 Re: most emotional orchestral piece
Author: Vick 
Date:   2003-03-25 04:14

another one- russian christmas music

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 Re: most emotional orchestral piece
Author: Lisa_UK 
Date:   2003-06-08 19:10

First time I heard the Copland concerto, I was moved to tears by the slow movement at the start. Most embarassing as I was in company at the time, watching Young Musician of the Year on TV with a bunch of friends!

Elgar's "Nimrod" has a similar effect on me, and Barber's Adagio for Strings reduces me to a blubbering wreck every time I hear it - in a good way, of course.

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 Re: most emotional orchestral piece
Author: Tim2 
Date:   2003-06-08 21:42

Such good taste all you people have. Before this year, I would never have considered the Copland Clarinet Concerto (first portion) in this category. I had never heard it live and never considered it as "emotional" but now after hearing it live with Jon Manasse and the Green Bay Symphony led by Bridget-Michaele Reischl, it touched me big on the inside, the beauty brought a tear to my eye too.

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 Re: most emotional orchestral piece
Author: Amy 
Date:   2003-06-08 21:58

Definitely Canon in D and Barber's Adagio for Strings are both lifelong favourites of mine.



Post Edited (2003-06-08 21:59)

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 Re: most emotional orchestral piece
Author: Bob Schwab 
Date:   2003-06-09 02:57

Lohengrin: Prelude (Act I) by Herbert Von Karajan with the Berlin Philharmonic

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 Re: most emotional orchestral piece
Author: Jack Kissinger 
Date:   2003-06-09 03:01

Nothing new in my list but here it is FWIW:

Strauss, Vier letzte lieder, especially "Beim Schlafengehen"

Elgar, "Nimrod" variation

Strauss, Der Rosenkavalier, "Presentation of the Silver Rose," and, for some inexplicable reason, the "Quick Waltz."

Barber, "Adagio for Strings"

Best regards,
jnk

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 Re: most emotional orchestral piece
Author: JMcAulay 
Date:   2003-06-09 03:44

Brandon no doubt wonders if I'm all there. First I claimed a selection that he had already mentioned to be "new," and then... "btw, I thought Russian Easter was by Rimsky Korsakov. If Prokofiev did one, I was not aware."

Well, Brandon, keep that awareness level low, because he didn't. It was really Old Nick in my mind, and I simply goofed. I must've been really out of it when I posted that.

Mea culpa.

Regards,
John



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 Re: most emotional orchestral piece
Author: theclarinetist 
Date:   2003-06-09 03:46

Hands down the most moving piece I've ever heard is Symphony No. 1 by John Corigliano...

One (of many) clarinet piece that I find incredibly moving is the 3rd movement of the Saint-Saens Sonate.... It's so beautiful and simple... It always gets to me = )


Don
theclarinetist@yahoo.com



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 Re: most emotional orchestral piece
Author: Tom A 
Date:   2003-06-09 10:31

Is this one of the longest intervals before a thread was resurrected?

Mahler Symphony No. 6

Carl Nielsen Symphony No. 4 (known as the Inextinguishable)

Both in completely different ways, and the Mahler is intensely personal for me. I can't imagine that anyone else's ideal setting for listening to a recording is, like mine, during a slow drive at dead of night on the lonely roads through the rugged country north of Sydney.

Each to his own!

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 Re: most emotional orchestral piece
Author: Lisa_UK 
Date:   2003-06-09 11:02

William the Conqueror wrote:

>Is this one of the longest intervals before a thread was resurrected?

My fault, sorry.

I was reading through some of the old threads yesterday, and couldn't believe that nobody had mentioned Barber's Adagio - and I just had to stick my oar in :)

Lisa

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 Re: most emotional orchestral piece
Author: beejay 
Date:   2003-06-09 11:13

It varies according to mood. At the moment, "Ruhe sanft, mein holdes leben" from Mozart's Zaide and Bluebeard's Castle by Bartok. A couple of other pieces that rang my emotional bells recently were Tippet's Fantasia Concertante on a theme of Corelli and "The World's Ransoming" for cor anglais and Orchestra by James MacMillan

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 Re: most emotional orchestral piece
Author: beejay 
Date:   2003-06-09 11:37

Oh, and I forgot to mention the Hymne Nationale from Berlioz's Trojans. We are playing it in my orchestra and it makes you want to go out and storm the Bastille all over again.

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 Re: most emotional orchestral piece
Author: Mark Charette 
Date:   2003-06-09 11:52

William the Conqueror wrote:

> Is this one of the longest intervals before a thread was
> resurrected?

Not even close.

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 Re: most emotional orchestral piece
Author: Mike Blinn 
Date:   2003-06-09 15:46

Rachmaninoff's 'Rhapsody on a Theme by Paganini', variation XVIII, the andante cantabile.

Wagner's overture to 'Tristan and Isolde'.

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 Re: most emotional orchestral piece
Author: BobD 
Date:   2003-06-09 17:27

Stars and Stripes Forever

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 Re: most emotional orchestral piece
Author: theNarrator 
Date:   2003-06-09 20:29

Dances of Galanta- kodaly
Enigma Variations- Elgar

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 Re: most emotional orchestral piece
Author: David 
Date:   2003-06-09 23:21

Messien "Pleurez mes Yeux" from "Le Cid"
Purcell Dido's Lament
Pergolesi Stabat Mater (Scholl 'n' Bonney)
Mozart Masonic Funeral Music
Gold "From a Distance"
Parton "It's a Gamble Either Way"
Williams "My Son Calls Another Man Daddy"

Damn, only just noticed the word "orchestral"...

David

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 Re: most emotional orchestral piece
Author: Francesca 
Date:   2003-06-10 05:22

Both of the Kalinnikov symphonies bring me tears. Gorgeous music!



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 Re: most emotional orchestral piece
Author: rbell96 
Date:   2003-06-10 09:14

NESSUN DORMA!

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 Re: most emotional orchestral piece
Author: BobD 
Date:   2003-06-10 15:08

.....by Callas

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 Re: most emotional orchestral piece
Author: Liquorice 
Date:   2003-06-10 15:48

I didn't know Callas also sang tenor arias?!

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 Re: most emotional orchestral piece
Author: Douglas 
Date:   2003-06-10 17:34

Douglas Moore's opera The Ballad of Baby Doe.

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 Re: most emotional orchestral piece
Author: David 
Date:   2003-06-16 22:23

Re William The Conqueror's comment on reopening old stuff.

I've been meaning to have a word with you about barging in here in 1066. A bit previous, even for a Frenchman. And you ought to be careful with that bow. You could have someone's eye out with that, you know.

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 Re: most emotional orchestral piece
Author: diz 
Date:   2003-06-17 00:48

I agree with 1066 on the Nielsen 4th (Det Uudslukelige) it is my all time favourtie "emotional" piece, considering Nielsen composed it as a result of witnessing the horrors of war and its ramifications first hand.

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 Re: most emotional orchestral piece
Author: Ella 
Date:   2003-06-17 06:30

Brahms fourth second movement, the third note of the second phrase...It's so tortured, but it overcomes it only so slightly to be in kind of a duldrums. Oh my goodness, Brahms is so amazing. Actually, the opening of the second movement seems to have a very similar feel to Gorecki's Third, which is another tear-jerker. And Appalachia Spring! I remember hearing that piece for the first time live and sitting in the back of the theatre with my friend sobbing silently during music camp. It represented to me everything I was striving for, so perfectly beautiful.

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 Re: most emotional orchestral piece
Author: Vic 
Date:   2003-06-17 16:31

I don't doubt that Callas probably did Nessun Dorma. I have heard Kiri Te Kenawa (I'm almost positive I'm spelling her name wrong) sing it, and it was fantastic. It's a tenor aria, but a soprano can sure do wonders with it, too.

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 Re: most emotional orchestral piece
Author: rbell96 
Date:   2003-06-18 20:21

ALOMARvelous12.............

I believe Stokowski orchestrated the Rachmaninoff Prelude you spoke off.

Rob

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 Re: most emotional orchestral piece
Author: Mark Pinner 
Date:   2003-06-19 00:09

Tchaikovsky Pathetique Symphony
Penderecki Threnody for the Victims of Hiroshima

I believe the question was on Orchestral pieces. West End Blues doesn't quite register orchestrally.

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 Re: most emotional orchestral piece
Author: BobD 
Date:   2003-06-19 11:34

Callas had an extrodinary vocal range and during her early years played a number of roles that she later abandoned. The "nessun dorma" was done in 1949 when Norman Schwartzkopf, the regular tenor, was engaged in Korea. But, perhaps I really meant "casta diva".

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 Re: most emotional orchestral piece
Author: sömeone 
Date:   2003-06-19 12:09

The Planets - Holst (especially venus)
Scheherazade - Rimsky Korsakov
Firebird Suite - Stravinsky
Nutcracker suite - TCHAIKOVSKY
Rhapsody in Blue - Gerhwin
Piano Concerto No. 2 'the soldier's tale' - shostakovich
Polovtsian Dances - Borodin
Pictures at an exhibition - Mussorgsky

my all time favourites....

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 Re: most emotional orchestral piece
Author: Clarinetpunk 
Date:   2003-06-19 18:43

Mendelsohn - Hebrides Overture

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 Re: most emotional orchestral piece
Author: SaRaH18 
Date:   2003-06-23 16:20

I agree with you clarinetpunk!
The Hebrides Overture has the BEST clarinet solo part!

Sarah

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 Re: most emotional orchestral piece
Author: pzaur 
Date:   2003-06-23 19:20

Mahler 5
Shostakovich 13 (incredible performance with Masur/NYPO)

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