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Author: Corey
Date: 2003-02-27 02:29
Is there anything that a repair tech could to to speace out these levers? On my clarinet they rub together and one will oepn when i dont want it to when i press the pther sometimes which also leads to loud squeaks....so, have any advice? Thanks in advance!
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Author: Mark Pinner
Date: 2003-02-27 04:12
Of course there is. They just need bending intoplace. It sounds like yours have been bent the wrong way. Don't do it yourself or you might end up ripping out the mounting from the body.
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Author: Bradley
Date: 2003-02-27 04:24
Mark- you seem really knowledgeable.....
I was wondering if you could answer a question of mine...
My left-handed B key has a little gap under the other level it pushes to work, creating a little space you have to fill before you reach the lever with the key. This is really a miniscule problem , but I play with this key a lot more than the right handed B key. Does this affect my playing ?
Even if it doesnt though, I wanna get it fixed because it annoys me sometimes.
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Author: Gordon (NZ)
Date: 2003-02-27 13:15
It is quick for a good technician to correct,and the only way it affects playing is it's annoyance factor.
However incorrect adjustment of the seating, pivots, and linkages associated with these low keys are probably the most common problems on a clarinet. Ths most common symptom for the player is more difficulty playing the left hand centre-staff B option than the right hand one.
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Author: Hank Lehrer
Date: 2003-02-27 13:42
Hi,
You know, I do little things like replacing a piece of cork here and there and this repair might be one that most working clarinetists should be able to do. I'm not suggesting that adjustments that are on the Crow's Foot side are included but the simple application of a small piece of cork like what is needed to take up the gap between the end of the LH B lever and the cross-over section is pretty simple.
Tools required: good precision screwdriver, a hemostat (you can tell I come from a medical family), contact cement, thin piece of cork, and a single-edge razor blade plus a little patience and about 20 minutes (most of which is drying time for the cement before the attachment occurs).
I'll bet someone like John Moses that works all the time does not have the time to go to his favorite tech and does these things himself. However, one must know what not to do!
This is not rocket science!
HRL
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Author: Gordon (NZ)
Date: 2003-02-27 14:16
Depending on the type of linkage, the previous thread could be misleading.
If there is a pin linkage system, then it is not an issue of cork thickness, but CAN (depending on other set-up issues) be a matter of appropriateness & thickness of the silencing material between the pin and the hole into which it engages.
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Author: Terry Horlick
Date: 2003-02-27 14:22
<plus a little patience and about 20 minutes>
This brings to mind a quote I heard yesterday. The husband of one of my employees said:
"Patience never got anybody anything fast enough!" -Ryan Caldwell 2003
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Author: Hank Lehrer
Date: 2003-02-27 14:27
Hi,
While I agree that Grodon's advice is excellent, the advice I gave referred to only the gap situation Corey described.
If someone is faced with the pin in hole situation, teflon or fishskin is the fix but that's not what was described in the originating thread.
HRL
Post Edited (02-27-03 15:30)
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Author: Michael McC.
Date: 2003-02-28 02:03
Also, kind of on the same topic. I was attempting to fix a friend's clarinet, whose LH E/B key was sticking. I took off the F/C key, and the E key worked fine. But when I put the other key back on, the E/B key began to stick down again. The right hand keys all worked fine, and the springs were all in place. I've never seen anything like it. Any suggestions?
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Author: Gordon (NZ)
Date: 2003-02-28 08:40
Is the 'touch piece' of the E/B key touching the side of the arm that goes down to the crows-foot of the F/C key?
And the fact that that it only happens for the left hand E/B suggests that the upper pivot of the E/B key may be sloppy.
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Author: Corey
Date: 2003-03-01 18:37
No, I dont think they need to be bent, they need to be tightened on the posts I think. They both wobble easily which is not how they're supossed to be.......-Corey
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Author: Gordon (NZ)
Date: 2003-03-01 21:52
Confusion here, possibly. I was replying to Michael McC's post.
But Corey, secure pivots (no key wobble) at the posts is vital to even begin correct adjustment in this area. I know that at least some 'technicians' actually leave these pivots sloppy on purpose to stop some binding which actually has another cause. All they do is turn olne problem into two, with a poorly functioning left hand (if not right hand as well) E/B, noisy mechanism, the possibility of losing screws, and a possible range of other symptoms.
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Author: clarinetplayer
Date: 2003-03-02 03:53
yeah they can be spaced apart( back into place) I had accidently dropped my instrument once and someone in band knocked it over and I couldn't play any notes really. I asked my band director and the C#/B were rubbing together. He just used some sort of tool to hit it easily back into place......*clarinetplayer*
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