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Author: ALOMARvelous12
Date: 2003-02-27 22:34
Students looking for help on their homework have not really succeeded here on this board, but I ain't making their same mistakes.
Anyway, for this year's annual science research project, I'll be doing the "Effects of Exposure to Specifically Structured Patterns of Sound on the Development and/or Advancement of the Human Brain". (otherwise known as the "Mozart Effect")
Anybody know where to find internet primary sources of experiments related to the topic outside of http://www.mozarteffect.com ? I'll need some secondary sources as well, but especially primary ones. The more recent the better. Also, what types of magazines might have articles about this?
Thanks.
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Author: Tom Piercy
Date: 2003-02-27 23:25
Here are two links that should help. The parenting-baby.com link has links to hundreds of other sites and articles relating to the supposed Mozart Effect.
http://www.mindinst.org
http://parenting-baby.com/Parenting-Baby-Music-Research/Music-Research.html
You should also look into research that has shown that there really is no Mozart Effect.
http://skepdic.com/mozart.html
doubting Thomas
Tom Piercy
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Author: jbutler ★2017
Date: 2003-02-27 23:44
On a related note, you might want to survey your states All State Band/Choir/Orchestra and find out what the mean SAT scores are. I know they do that in Texas so the music association can have data as to how music/academia relate. I think it is even published on the TMEA web site. You might be able to use such correlations in your paper. At least it might add a little originality to the work rather than merely citing others. Just a suggestion...take it or leave it as you see fit. Here is the TMEA link:
http://www.tmea.org/025_Advocacy/allstate.html
jbutler
Post Edited (02-28-03 01:00)
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Author: ALOMARvelous12
Date: 2003-02-28 00:18
Mr. Piercy, I am well ahead of you. I've already looked through those sites and have picked out several interesting articles.
However, I had never seen that other article. It was interesting and I've made note of that.
I'm still in the early stages of this project. So right now, all that's called for are primary and secondary sources. I've already met the number of required secondary sources so now I'm just looking for primary ones, which are actually accounts and lab reports written by the researcher(s) themselves and describe their own experimental work. I am supposed to present at least two detailed primary sources along with their abstract and summary from the last five years by the March 15th deadline. So, jbutler, that data shouldn't be needed at this point, but it could definately be included as interesting sometime later in the project.
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Author: Jim E.
Date: 2003-02-28 04:27
Check the established academic journals in psychology for relevant articles. The "Readers Guide to Periodical Literature" will get you there. The reference librarian at your local school or public library can help you with this. (I'd give you the names of the journals, but I haven't taken psych in 30 years, and I can't remember a one.)
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Author: JMcAulay
Date: 2003-02-28 07:06
I do not recall concerted reluctance to help students with homework assignments. The main problem is with those who appear to want their homework to be done for them. Tsk, tsk.
Regards,
John
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Author: Synonymous Botch
Date: 2003-02-28 12:33
Funny how music in public domain gets touted...
"Hindemith for your toddler!"
"Asa-Pekka Salonen takes your preshooler on an atonal rhythmic adventure" and olddly enough, the kids dig Elmo and Barney...
This entire hothousing movement is a deluded load of bosh...
Seen any more Mensa members producing any useful work?
More measurable genius-level entrants to University?
Less idiocy on the highways?
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After this 'Mozart effect' became phenomenal, we had the Enron debacle, Instant Messaging and an upward spike in coffee prices.
You'll find the kind of trends that you're looking for in such loosely correlated research; there are lies, damned lies, and statistics.
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Author: tim
Date: 2003-02-28 15:38
let's see if I got it right. Clarinet players jam the mouth piece against their teeth. the teeth are rigidly connected to the skull which surround the brain. (if there is one). What a tremendous transfer of vibriations.
conclusion: Clarinet players are some smart SOB's.
I wonder what would happen if we wore skull caps carved out of Grenadilla.
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2003-02-28 16:49
I'm not sure there's a Mozart Effect. Rather, I think there's a correlation between liking classical music and at least the scholastic type of intelligence. Intelligent parents tend to have intelligent kids, who hear the classical music their parents listen to.
In my high school, almost all the smart kids were in the band, and most of them played clarinet. The violinists in the orchestra, however, sure were dumb, especially the 2nds, and let's not even talk about the percussionists, or the majorettes in the marching band.
As Syn. Bot. says, that sort of intelligence is no guarantee you're a good person, but it's not a handicap either. Of my three best clarinet friends in high school, one is a college professor, one is an engineer at Cape Kennedy, and one is a physicist, and they're all great guys.
Best regards.
Ken Shaw
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Author: Neil
Date: 2003-03-01 03:28
There was once a thread on this board concerning the correlaton between musical and mathematical abilities. You might want to read it; it was quite entertaining.
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Author: ALOMARvelous12
Date: 2003-03-01 03:41
GBK:
"There was a BBC program about the Mozart Effect, which you can view and listen to here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/atoz/ ...GBK"
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yeah, BBC has had some interesting programs posted on their site. i remember the one about mozart's clarinet concerto...
...in this case however....*yawns* that was one boring program. lol
Ken Shaw: "The violinists in the orchestra, however, sure were dumb, especially the 2nds"
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a couple of days ago, while rehearsing beethoven's second, our conductor called on those "losers in the back of the second violin section" to play a couple of triplets in the music. that was one case in which we realized just how, ahem, "talented" our second violins were.
Syn. Botch.:
"Less idiocy on the highways?"
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that's funny, i just wrote an essay about an idiot driving on a highway today in english class
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Author: Hiroshi
Date: 2003-03-02 00:16
A psycological therapy to remedy some brain deffects,Tomatis method, seems to be inspired by the Mozart effect.
This is easily searched using Tomatis as the key word.
Caltech Professor Boyk's URL, who is pianist and audio engineer, might include interesting articles on how human brain perceives frequencies especially above 20kHz, which is cut out by ordinary CDs.
http://www.cco.caltech.edu/~boyk/index.html
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Author: williamainsworth
Date: 2003-03-02 02:00
Sorry. Actually I was replying to Tim's message and thought it would follow that. Just being a smart aleck!
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Author: tim
Date: 2003-03-03 12:34
yes if course, don't forget the phase of the moon and maybe some semi-precious crystals. you can use the crystal to shave the reed.
I suppose we should stop our smart aleck approach. some people take this serious and forget to follow good science method. namely establish a good control group. I believe that is what has been historical wrong with any Mozart effect studies.
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Author: Peter
Date: 2003-03-03 12:48
This may be strange, but i've never been able to listen to Mozart for more than five minutes before becoming terribly depressed .I don't suppose Mozart effect would do much for me.
By the way, that's not a wise answer, it happens to be the truth. I can't stand the music.
Peter
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