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Author: Captain Floo of the Smork Brigade 
Date:   2003-02-27 20:30

greetings all!

this is my first time here, and i'm hoping that someone may be able to help. i have recently come into possesion of a clarinet and am trying my best to figure it out. playing the saxophone for several years certainly helps. the thing is i'm having a problem with fingering charts. i've looked up several on the internet and as far as my clarinet goes they are incorrect. is it possible that this majestic wand is in another key? and if so, where could i find charts for it?

any assistance in this matter would be greatly appreciated.

thank you.

-Captain Floo



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 Re: key
Author: Mark Charette 
Date:   2003-02-27 20:41

Captain Floo of the Smork Brigade wrote:

> i've looked up several
> on the internet and as far as my clarinet goes they are
> incorrect. is it possible that this majestic wand is in
> another key? and if so, where could i find charts for it?

Are you sure that they're incorrect? It could be that you're not used to a transposing instrument in the key of Bb.

When you finger a "C" using the fingering charts (go to http://www.wfg.woodwind.org for some good ones) what concert pitch (piano note) comes out?

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 Re: key
Author: Ralph G 
Date:   2003-02-27 20:47

Captain,

You could have a clarinet using a different key system, like Albert or Oehler. You've likely come across fingering charts based on the standard Boehm system. If this is the case, it's like using a map of Chicago to find your way around New York.

And I'm impressed that such an impressive figure from the Smork armed forces has visited our little corner. When you were a fresh-faced ensign just out of the Smork Academy, did you ever dream of having such a glorious military career?

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 Re: key
Author: Captain Floo of the Smork Brigade 
Date:   2003-02-27 21:02

well don't i look the fool on this one!

fingered C = concert Bb.

so the instrument is naturally in Bb then? why is such transposing necessary? are there any charts that show concert pitch? it's no trouble really, but it would make things easier for my purposes.

please do excuse my incredible lack of musical knowledge. i am very greatful for the help you all lend.

-Captain Floo



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 Re: key
Author: Mark Charette 
Date:   2003-02-28 00:24

Captain Floo of the Smork Brigade wrote:

> so the instrument is naturally in Bb then? why is such
> transposing necessary?

Look up transposing here on the BBoard. We've had some long, interesting threads.

> are there any charts that show concert
> pitch?

Not that I know of ... the music is already transposed for you.

You said you played sax for a while ... Finger a C, play it, and tell me what note it is on a piano ...

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 Re: key
Author: Hank Lehrer 
Date:   2003-02-28 01:02

Mark,

I'll bet the Captain says Bb because I am sure he must play a tenor (or even better, a bass), not an alto or bari.

HRL

I hope he doesn't say a C. Yikes, a C Melody!



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 Re: key
Author: CPW 
Date:   2003-02-28 02:19

Just an aside.....it seems that younz all know what a Smork is.
I dont.
Enlighten moi

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 Re: key
Author: CPW 
Date:   2003-02-28 02:20

[huh]
Just an aside.....it seems that younz all know what a Smork is.
I dont.
Enlighten moi

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 Re: key
Author: Mark Charette 
Date:   2003-02-28 02:23

Hank Lehrer wrote:

> I hope he doesn't say a C. Yikes, a C Melody!

We can always hope ... [happy]

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 Re: key
Author: JMcAulay 
Date:   2003-02-28 07:22

Mon Capitaine:

Most Clarinets are trasposing instruments. In that fashion, one need learn only a single fingering scheme, and the printed music is transposed by the arranger or publisher from concert pitch to the pitch of the instrument.
If it would serve your purpose better, you might acquire a C-pitch Clarinet, in contradistinction to the more common B-flat pitched instrument. Doing so would make playing much simpler from the standpoint of using piano charts, violin music, and the like. Otherwise, one must mentally transpose everything one reads by a full tone from the printed page. Not a daunting task after acquisition of proper skill, but a bit confusing to the ordinary newbie.

Regards,
John
who hopes your side wins [up

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 Re: key
Author: BobD 
Date:   2003-02-28 12:19

Thanks JMc for helping us transposing newbies understand the subject.

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