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 Plastic Ligs slipping off - solution
Author: sfalexi 
Date:   2003-02-22 22:44

I noticed a few posts about complaints about plastic ligatures that "slip off" when twisting off a mouthpiece or ones that ride up a bit while tightening. I offer a solution.

The main ligature I noticed this happening with (and the only plastic one I currently know of) is the gigliotti. Take a piece of fine sandpaper and sand the ribs on the inside of the mouthpiece a bit. Not the ribs that touch the reed, the ones that are on the backside of the mouthpiece.

This will create a rougher surface which will grab better to the mouthpiece. Cause two smooth surfaces will tend to have less friction (which is why it's virtually HELL to get something to stay on a crystal mp), whereas a rougher surface will adhere more.

I guess according to this you could also sand a bit of the mouthpiece down, but then you're kinda playing with fire cause you don't want to change the structure or make it more succeptable to warping. But the lig can be played around with (specially since it's only 15 bucks!)

Alexi

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 RE: Plastic Ligs slipping off - solution
Author: Liquorice 
Date:   2003-02-22 22:59

"Take a piece of fine sandpaper and sand the ribs on the inside of the mouthpiece a bit"

Er... how's that going to make the ligature stay on? Or do you mean the inside of the ligature?

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 RE: Plastic Ligs slipping off - solution
Author: GBK 
Date:   2003-02-22 23:01

An alternative solution:

A well known remedy for ligatures which slip on crystal mouthpieces is to apply a few thin strips of masking tape to the inside ribs which grip the mouthpiece. As I often use an original Harrison or inverted Bonade, this has totally solved the problem...GBK

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 RE: Plastic Ligs slipping off - solution
Author: Hank 
Date:   2003-02-22 23:25

Hi,

I have used Gigiotti and Luben ligatures for many, many years and have had no problems with the ligature slipping off. But then, I don't try to twist off the mouthpiece with the reed attached nor do I have to to change to an A clarinet or vice-versa (one of the joys of jazz and band work). When I used to play a crystal MP, the plastic ligatures (and even the Bonades) did not exist.

IMHO, there is no problem unless the cork on the MP is too tight in the barrel. That may be where the real problem resides.

HRL

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 RE: Plastic Ligs slipping off - solution
Author: sfalexi 
Date:   2003-02-22 23:28

hehe. Yeah. The rips on the inside of the ligature. That's what I meant.

And GBK, that solution you proposed is the same basis as mine. The masking tape is a rougher surface than the plastic. So it adheres better. Same basic principle though.

Alexi

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 RE: Plastic Ligs slipping off - solution
Author: Karel 
Date:   2003-02-23 01:59

One solution could be to change the mpc and barrell as a unit since you can get a good grip on the barrell itself. It means spending money on second barrell and lig 'though.

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 RE: Plastic Ligs slipping off - solution
Author: Clarence 
Date:   2003-02-23 04:02

You could try:

Putting tape on the mouthpiece

or

Putting a thin rubber mouthpiece protector like the BG brand on top of the mouthpiece. (normally used on the beak)

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