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 Vandoren Plastic or HardRubber
Author: klarinet 
Date:   2003-02-21 16:45

I have 2 Vandoren mouthpieces but both look very different. My B45 writings are engraved in the mouthpiece and can not be scratched off also the B45 is not shinny like a brand new one(of course I've used it all my professional life) and it shows sign of age, discolor. On the other hand my B45Lyre is shinny and the writings are in gold paint which I've easily scraped off. Same age as my B45 however looks brand new with the exception of my intentional scrapping the word Vandoren and B45Lyre off.

My question is could one be plastic (B45Lyre) and the B45 be Hard Rubber? I don't know if Vandoren made both plastic and Hard Rubber. Do you? They are old mouthpieces I got in HighSchool and used through college. I only played the B45 not the Lyre one in college so my teacher never saw it. I just recently took out the B45Lyre and starting fiddling with it when I realized the possibility it could be made of plastic. I have not been able to verify it because Vandoren is impossible to contact.
I would be interested in knowing if my B45lyre is plastic. The music store in town has no clue and I haven't made a trip to Boston to ask a real expert since it just occurred to me recently.
Thanks for any help!

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 RE: Vandoren Plastic or HardRubber
Author: Dee 
Date:   2003-02-21 21:13

They are both hard rubber. The difference is that one has been kept put away and unused and not been exposed to heat, light, etc. It has remained shiney. The other one has dulled from use and exposure. You will occasionally see hard rubber mouthpieces that have turned brown or have a greenish tint to the black or brown. Yet if you look inside them, they are nice and black and often still shiney inside. In other cases I've seen mouthpieces that have turned brown but always had a ligature on it and under the ligature, the mouthpiece is still shiney and black.

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 RE: Vandoren Plastic or HardRubber
Author: Don Berger 
Date:   2003-02-21 22:05

We frequently TRY to distinguish between hard rubber and "plastic". To my line-of-thought, they are both generically "plastic", just of the two types, HR = A thernoSET, many-others = thermoplastic [based on their response to heat!!]. The old TS's would "color" with exposure, now-a-days harder to tell differences. Thots?? Don

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 RE: Vandoren Plastic or HardRubber
Author: Jack Kissinger 
Date:   2003-02-21 23:07

Take the shiny one and rub it vigorously for a few seconds on your shirt sleeve to heat it up a little. You should be able to smell sulphur compound if it's hard rubber. I've never heard of a "plastic" Vandoren mouthpiece (though that doesn't mean they don't exist).

Best regards,
jnk

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 RE: Vandoren Plastic or HardRubber
Author: Bob 
Date:   2003-02-22 13:47

After you rub it and smell sulfur you get three wishes.

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 RE: Vandoren Plastic or HardRubber
Author: Mark Charette 
Date:   2003-02-22 16:02

Bob wrote:
>
> After you rub it and smell sulfur you get three
> wishes.

Of course, the first wish is always "Ugh! That smells terrible. I wish I wouldn't have done that ..." which makes the other 2 wishes moot.

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