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 MIDI interface for winds
Author: diz 
Date:   2003-02-11 22:56

Hello - I'm interested in feedback from any of you who have had (successful) experiences with MIDI input from your clarinets (microphones or other related equipment) and how easy it was and how effective the transcription into notation.

thanks

diz, Sydney

I'd like to know a) equipment and b) software if possible

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 RE: MIDI interface for winds
Author: Jim E. 
Date:   2003-02-12 04:13

I don't know about doing it from a wind instrument, a friend does it from a keyboard and her advice is that you have to be PERFECTLY accurate in your playing (especially the timing,) otherwise the cleanup is more work than direct entry.

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 RE: MIDI interface for winds
Author: Alex 
Date:   2003-02-12 06:44

I have Coda PrintMusic and have tried the MicNotator with the clarinet. It generally gets close to the right note, although even the slightest hesitation in tone tends to register an overtone or undertone way off the scale. Rhythmically, you can kiss any hopes of accuracy goodbye. Granted, it is last year's version of the software.

My guess is that someone like Sabine Meyer could probably manage to get a somewhat accurate Bb major scale with a lot of concentration.

-Alex

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 RE: MIDI interface for winds
Author: Mark Sloss 
Date:   2003-02-12 16:23

Diz,

There are pitch-to-MIDI transducers out there, but they are very susceptible to the overtones, pitch variability, articulations and other nuances of live-in-the-flesh instruments. As far as rhythm is concerned, that isn't such a big deal because most sequencing software can quantize what you play. Play into it with a click and the quantization algorithm will do the rest. You'll have to do some fixes, but it ain't too bad.

My method of preference is a Yamaha WX5 or WX7, which is a MIDI wind instrument (completely electronic, and registers your fingerings, articulations, vibrato, etc.). It takes some time to get comfortable, but the pitch-to-MIDI transducer problems go away. You can score one for about $500, or probably less if you buy used. To go to notation, it is a bit pricey but Steinberg Cubase Score or VST/32 is a great application. Big bonus is that it is a full multi-track recorder, so you can have endless hours of fun building clarinet choirs out of yourself.

Fun stuff!

Cheers, Mark.

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 RE: MIDI interface for winds
Author: diz 
Date:   2003-02-12 20:52

thanks, Mark (and everyone else)

I've had a lot of experience with Synthesizer-->MIDI-->Computer (yep being inaccurate in rhythm is a pain at FIRST - the trick of course is to slow down your input speed considerably).

I'm guessing the WX5 or WX7 is a "generic" MIDI wind instrument of no particular spieces or is it an "electronic clarinet".

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 RE: MIDI interface for winds
Author: Mark Sloss 
Date:   2003-02-13 13:11

The WX looks a bit like a 30th-century clarinet, and has a "mouthpiece" of similar geometry to a Bb mouthpiece (it even has a "reed" that senses lip pressure), but it is generic in the sense that it only sends MIDI data. When you mate it to a tone generator (any MIDI synthesizer) you can play any sound on it. It is designed to elicit the nuance from the wind-instrument patches that you simply can't get from a piano keyboard and thumbwheel.

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