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Author: Eugene
Date: 2003-01-20 04:38
Does anybody have any experience teaching young children with this problem and any words of advice I'm trying to teach my daughter the flute it is very difficult for her
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Author: Synonymous Botch
Date: 2003-01-20 12:05
ASAD or other attention deficits are exacerbated by diet. if you're kid is jumpy after 10 minutes of beginning practce, that's just the normal drill for pre-teens.
Teaching your own children anything like this can be an exercise in futility... better to let someone else take the heat.
How old is your child, anyway?
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Author: David Dow
Date: 2003-01-20 14:06
ASAd children can learn, however a very patient teacher well versed in childhood problems should be able to get results.
The most important thing is to teach at the speed of the student, and not to expect too much too soon.
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Author: Lori
Date: 2003-01-20 17:10
Teach her/have her practice in a quiet room with no distractions. I mean NO distractions. I have an ADD kid in my band that can focus and pay attention and practice efficiently in the band room after school if I kick everyone else out of the room. That's the only way he can get anything done. Even the phone ringing or someone knocking on the door really distracts him. Unfortunately, I can't kick people out every afternoon, but if this is your daughter, hopefully you can designate a space and time that is hers for her practicing.
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Author: Lori
Date: 2003-01-20 17:10
Teach her/have her practice in a quiet room with no distractions. I mean NO distractions. I have an ADD kid in my band that can focus and pay attention and practice efficiently in the band room after school if I kick everyone else out of the room. That's the only way he can get anything done. Even the phone ringing or someone knocking on the door really distracts him. Unfortunately, I can't kick people out every afternoon, but if this is your daughter, hopefully you can designate a space and time that is hers for her practicing.
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Author: Eugene
Date: 2003-01-20 17:15
12years old she did well on the recorder did lots from memory but one day she stopped because she felt she learned all there was to know on the recoder but the flute is much harder she has a hard time differenciateing notes that are an octave apart in a thirty minute period she actually only plays notes about 10-15 min.The rest is lack of cocentration or obbssesed with something else
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Author: Ginny
Date: 2003-01-20 17:46
I taught guitar (clarinet is secondary to me) to a younger boy with really extreme ADD, in a special academy. A ball of fire, with a will of steel. His lessons were short, I also taught his old sister, so he'd get to little lessons surrounding hers. Also, I changed the topic quickly, as I had always done lots of off instrument work learning note names, practicing rhythms and eartraining games.
Does your daughter have the diagonsis? In special classes or anything? Her school teachers might be able to point out techniques that work with ADD kids if she is.
I gave up on teaching my own kids after about age 6 or 7, even though I was a guitar teacher by profession ( I did start them playing very early.) I won't go into the dynamic, but its possible a non-parent teacher would have fewer problems. I have shared lessons with one and the older would like to start voice lessons with me
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Author: Gary Van Cott
Date: 2003-01-20 22:02
I think that if you search on the internet you will find quite a bit on this subject. There are apparently many techniques that can help this type of student including things like music on colored paper or inserted in colored plastic sheet protectors.
Gary
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Author: RA
Date: 2003-01-20 23:07
I am an ADD musician. I know this sounds crazy but in my family we believe in herbs. Fish Oil capsules taken twice a day can prove to be very efficient. I have just started this regimen about a week ago and after the first dosage I was like WOW! Look how much better I can focus. It has the essitial fatty acids which I think our diets lack. It pays to have a very patient teacher and I was very blessed with them. So, yes, ADD can learn. I am living proff. Oh, yeah, I also started with recorder. I tried to play flute first but recorder worked better. Maybe if the sideways thing is too awkrad for her, try clarinet. Are her fingers small? If so try Eb. If she can reach the keys alright go with the standard Bb.
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2003-01-21 00:11
RA wrote:
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> I am an ADD musician. I know this sounds crazy but in my
> family we believe in herbs. Fish Oil capsules taken twice a day
> can prove to be very efficient. I have just started this
> regimen about a week ago and after the first dosage I was like
> WOW! Look how much better I can focus.
Give us a report back in a month, six months, and a year. It's way too early to make any pronouncement; first you get the placebo effect, then reality kicks in. At least most of the time.
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Author: Eugene
Date: 2003-01-21 03:59
Yes she has been diagnosed as add by the childrens hospital short of sneeking in her medicine on weekends its impossible to get her to take anything else especially vitmins or herbs she hates it
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Author: Whitney
Date: 2003-01-21 04:20
My brother has ADD and I have ADHD. Voice of experience... I have trouble memorizing music, but, yes, a quiet room, alone, with no distractions often makes it easier to stay focused. The more often it is done, the easier it gets. My brother had a hard time practicing and memorizing, and he was never first chair (or in the top band at school). But please, tell your daughter that slow and steady will definitely win this race. I noticed that my brother enjoyed playing bass clarinet much more than he did Bb. He was also much more liable to practice on his bass than his Bb... Perhaps there's another instruments she might like to try at the same time or instead of the flute? So as long as it stays new and fun, it'll keep getting easier. Have you tried taking certain foods out of the diet for any period of time? It may sound odd, but part of my brother's problem was a severe allergy to (of all things!) wheat. It made the symptoms of ADD present much more prominently. If it is any comfort at all, both my brother and myself have thoroughly enjoyed our very different musical experiences... He struggled, was last chair, and even had to ask his little sister for help... But he enjoyed the music. There's always hope!!!!
As for meds, I can say that my brother did much better OFF of medicines than he ever did on them. If any doctor advises you to use medicines, do so only in an extreme case (mine was). It's not a pleasant experience for the child IF the dosage is too high. (Been there, done that.) Herbal supplements, while NOT fun to take, can help a bit. Additionally, I know my brother prefers drinking those lovely fruity energy drinks (Sobe, Snapple Elementals, etc.). :-)
Hope everything turns out well, and please let us know how she's doing! :-) I wish you all the best!
Whitney (High school senior!)
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Author: Brenda
Date: 2003-01-21 12:27
My son was diagnosed with a severe case of ADD when in second grade, but fortunately without the hyperactivity. When I teach him I have to wait sometimes several minutes for the question to register before he answers, but he has very profound thoughts once the brain gets in gear. He and his brothers all had piano training, but now he plays bass guitar (his choice) and will literally spend hours working out new techniques. It's something he loves. It'a trait with ADD, that they can't concentrate on most things, but will amaze you with their abilities to concentrate in an area that interests them.
Great patience, gentle prodding, generous commendation, and gentle and consistent discipline go a long way. Some days when she's frustrated you have to just leave the studies for another time. Diet has a lot to do with it, too. The above suggestions are for real! You have to find out what your daughter responds to. Inside herself she'll sense if something is working or not, trust her. These are bright and creative people, they just need to be managed intelligently and sensitively.
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Author: Mark Sloss
Date: 2003-01-21 14:49
Duct tape!
Seriously, you cannot force a hyperactive or ADD child to conform to the "traditional" lesson format. Divide up the lesson into small activities with a lot of variation to keep it exciting and interesting. You have the luxury since it is your child to do it in smaller chunks of time spread out across an afternoon or evening instead of having to make her sit for 1/2 hour and focus.
Even the calmest, most focused child in the world is likely to be a challenge for her own parents to teach. Parent/child is just a different dynamic than teacher/student. You might find you have better luck with a private instructor that knows the score going in and has a method for managing the short attention span.
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Author: Bob
Date: 2003-01-21 18:01
ADD appears to be recent affliction except I seem to recall a couple of boot camp Marines who had it for awhile.
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2003-01-21 21:02
Bob wrote:
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> ADD appears to be recent affliction except I seem to
> recall a couple of boot camp Marines who had it for
> awhile.
Perhaps it's the naming and diagnosis that's recent, not the affliction.
A lot of stomach ailments have been misdiagosed as "flu" when it's really been mild food poisoning.
Ulcers were thought to be a problem with stomach acid, not specialized internal fauna out of balance.
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Author: jenna
Date: 2003-01-22 01:12
I agree with Brenda. My brother has ADD, and has been on aderol for years. It is impossible to get him to focus on a lot of things, but when he finds something that really interests him, you can't pry him away from it. Perhaps let your daughter try a variety of things and see what really perks her interest. Listen to different instruments via recordings or on television (short excerpts of course), let her try whatever is available and talk to her. Decide between the two of you what she really thinks is "neat."
jenna
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