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 purple stain
Author: classifan 
Date:   2003-01-08 12:55

New Buffet R-13s have a cover of nice purple stain on the wood that gradually comes off as the instrument is handled and played. What is the purpose of this stain and why does it come off so easily?

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 RE: purple stain
Author: donald nicholls 
Date:   2003-01-08 17:20

i am tempted to try and be funny by posting that is a special "tone darkening solution" that Buffet have invented. If you put it on your reed you will sound like Karl Leister / Larry Combs / Paul Meyer.....
but this isn't true or helpful, and i have no idea what this blue stain is, except to say that i have never heard of or seen it before so it is probably no suposed to be there. If it is carcinogenic or stains your hands, maybe you can sue?
donald

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 RE: purple stain
Author: David Peacham 
Date:   2003-01-08 18:44

On the same principle as selling jeans that have been made to look faded, perhaps Buffet should sell clarinets that have been treated to make them look as though the stain has already come out on someone's hands.

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 RE: purple stain
Author: Alseg 
Date:   2003-01-08 20:15

No.....this is really Purple Rain from the clarinetist formerly known as Prince.
Maybe it is gentian violet...a compound used to treat fungus (scary thought)
Or...what color is the plush velvet in case?? could it be a purple dye? Maybe ask on the Boosey&Hawkes.com web site under the "contact us" section.

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 RE: purple stain
Author: A.C. 
Date:   2003-01-08 21:22

I have the same problem with my r-13. I believe that this is what Buffet uses to make the wood appear darker.(If you buy a prestige, elite, or festival the wood is left unstained because it is naturally dark)I noticed that when I am playing in a room that is rather warm, the stain seems to come off due to perspiration(which seems to wear away the stain).
~A.C.~

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 RE: purple stain
Author: Bob 
Date:   2003-01-09 10:39

For some reason this makes me think of potassium permanganate.

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 RE: purple stain
Author: Ken Shaw 
Date:   2003-01-09 14:09

According to a posting on the Klarinet board by Alvin Swiney, a former Moennig apprentice, Buffet stains the wood with India Ink to make it uniformly black. http://www.woodwind.org/Databases/Logs/1999/05/001153.txt

India ink, thinned with water, sometimes has a purplish tint. Even if they no longer use India ink, Buffet definitely uses some sort of black stain on the R-13 (and advertise that the Prestige is made with unstained wood). That's probably what you see.

Best regards.

Ken Shaw

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 RE: purple stain
Author: d dow 
Date:   2003-01-09 14:36

There is definitely purple stain on new Buffets. after testing one of my students clarinets it was easily rubbed off...

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 RE: purple stain
Author: Gordon (NZ) 
Date:   2003-01-10 05:23

Mpingo (grenadilla) timber often has light streaks in it. This lower quality (perhpas only visually) timber is probably used for the cheaper instruments. It seems odd though that Buffet cannot come up with a better stain than this. Perhaps it is the CHEAPEST stain available.

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