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 vibrato
Author: EaubeauHorn 
Date:   2008-05-07 21:22

In this video, how is the player producing the vibrato? Is he opening and closing his throat?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LtyutZ1AH0

EBH

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Author: A.U.K 
Date:   2008-05-08 07:02





Post Edited (2008-11-20 19:43)

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 Re: vibrato
Author: wrowand 
Date:   2008-05-08 12:33

I thought that most Japanese players followed the German tradition of oboe playing and so mostly used a lip vibrato.

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 Re: vibrato
Author: JRJINSA 
Date:   2008-05-08 13:13

I saw this video a couple of years ago and find that vibrato style rather annoying. He's an absolutely fantastic oboist, but, that vibrato to me just sounds exaggerated and needs a bit of toning down. I don't want to sound like that but he does. He likes it and so do his fans so it works.



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 Re: vibrato
Author: HautboisJJ 
Date:   2008-05-08 15:14

It's actually not the lips that are creating the vibrato, but a combination of the throat and diaphragm (if one believes in that). The way the reed is constructed and the embouchure formed causes this type of sound, and the only type of vibrato that will probably work is that of Fumiaki's. I agree that it can sometimes sound like a saxophone, but then again, not many people have heard his standard concerto recordings under some of the big German and Japanese orchestras, so yeah, i think he vibratos appropriately for the type of music played here.

Howard

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Author: A.U.K 
Date:   2008-05-08 18:47





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 Re: vibrato
Author: vboboe 
Date:   2008-05-09 02:56

... well ... i dunno ... he tucks his chin back quite close to his vocals, methinks there's reciprocal responsiveness happening there ...

How many different styles of producing vibrato are out there?

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 Re: vibrato
Author: HautboisJJ 
Date:   2008-05-09 03:22

I always feel that a lot of German style players (not to stereotype) plays on over heavy and open reeds, and to counter that, a lot of lip is tucked into the mouth, which isn't wrong but sometimes hinder flexibility. The chin going down is probably just his bad habit, notice that the oboe is not hold straight as well, but then again, he sure sounds great to me! =D

Now vibrato is a subjective thing, but basically, how wide the pitch is bent, or the pitch is not bent at all, or the speed of the pulsation, all distinguishes the styles of vibrato. I find it useful to be able to do many types of vibrato, slow, fast, wide, warm, conservative, holliger like, etc, but, there is a danger of developing only one type of vibrato, which in Fumiaki's case might be true. Listen to the great oboe sound gallery site once again, and you notice that vibrato also defines certain players instantly, e.g. Douglas Boyd.

Howard

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 Re: vibrato
Author: EaubeauHorn 
Date:   2008-05-10 16:07

I thought the vibrato in the video is fitting for the type of music he is playing, but how he is doing it physically was not like anything I've seen. My teacher uses some kind of throat vibrato; I use a gut vibrato, and over time it is starting to sound the way I want it to, with the same flexibility and "range of wideness" that I developed over many years on the violin. Most people seem to use what I call a throat (glottal?) vibrato, but when I have tried to do it, it breaks the sound up. Since I already have well-developed gut muscles from playing brass instruments, this was the easiest and most natural for me to develop. My teacher says either is completely acceptable.

I heard a wind quintet last Sunday here in town, and I just loved the oboe player, who is a young woman recently joined the symphony here as 2nd oboe. Especially her use of vibrato was exactly as I would have done on the music, and it was cool to hear someone do what I would emulate.

EBH

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