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Author: Ed Lowry
Date: 2014-05-24 23:53
Too much work in the altissimo has led to an ultimatum from my family: practice in the garage or soundproof a room!
I'm looking for suggestions on soundproofing -- how much is needed, what works well, are there any inexpensive options that will do the job? Or am I looking at building a room within a room in order to get something that really works?
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Author: pewd
Date: 2014-05-25 03:14
I added a sun-room off the back of the house, and turned it into a studio.
So far the ladies who direct the goings on around here haven't complained.
Its an expensive option, but so is acoustical insulation, special walls, special ceiling tiles, etc.
- Paul Dods
Dallas, Texas
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Author: Caroline Smale
Date: 2014-05-25 03:20
I have cork tiles on wall of the music room plus carpets and heavy curtains which provide a "non-flattering" accoustic for practice which is what I wanted however don't think this would fully attenuate a loud altissimo outside the room.
Solid walls help prevent sound transmission but I suspect that many US houses have hollow stud walls that probably don't stop much sound, so heavy non transmitting cladding would be needed here.
The single most sound transparent part of room is likely to be the door so similar treatment as for wall might help.
Alternative is to do your altissimo practice in a field. Having played in grass clad surroundings I can testify that it is probably one of the most accoustically dead conditions, musically very uncomfortable but you sure get to know what your basic sound really is like.
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Author: BobD
Date: 2014-05-25 20:37
I wouldn't consider soundproofing the room as the sound will be "muffled" i.e. not natural.
Bob Draznik
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Author: Bruno
Date: 2014-05-25 21:11
I knew a guy who used egg cartons glued on the walls - just the half that holds the eggs in those little cups. Where he got them I don't know but he said they were inexpensive. And . . .they worked great!
I don't think you could gather enough of them in a lifetime so I guess he went to the mfg of egg cartons and bought a gang of them.
B>
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Author: Funfly
Date: 2014-05-26 01:57
Loads of stuff on the sax forums about soundproofing practice rooms, mainly from the younger generation - now they really do have problems.
Understand you can get a sort of 'box' to put a sax in and you use your fingers inside of the box, pictures look a bit ungainly.
How about wrapping a duvet around your clarinet so you are playing inside of the duvet?
Egg crates glued to the wall - will your wife let you get away with that?
I will continue to think up weird ideas to solve your problem after I have had a few more glasses of the brown liquid. ![[rotate]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smiley25.gif)
Martyn Thatcher Mature Student Cheshire U.K.
Clarinet - Yamaha SE Custom
Alto Sax - Yamaha YAS 480
Guitar - Yamaha FG 375-S
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Author: Steven Ocone
Date: 2014-05-26 23:59
An extra layer if drywall would help. Also block off ventilation ducts during practice.
Steve Ocone
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Author: Funfly
Date: 2014-05-27 15:30
Don't forget to shut the door and windows.
Martyn Thatcher Mature Student Cheshire U.K.
Clarinet - Yamaha SE Custom
Alto Sax - Yamaha YAS 480
Guitar - Yamaha FG 375-S
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Author: BflatNH
Date: 2014-05-27 22:38
If you are still building-out the room (ceiling & wall surfaces not in place), consider that the lower frequencies are conducted via the studs (wall/wall or ceiling/floor). If you can, offset alternate studs so each stud only supports one wall surface or the floor or the ceiling. If you make the offset large enough, you can 'weave' acoustic insulation (your choice) between the [inside the wall] surface and the unconnected edge of the studs.
Different frequency ranges have different optimum treatment strategies.
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Author: Ed Lowry
Date: 2014-05-28 00:11
Thank you everyone for your suggestions! I'm still pondering what to do, so any further ideas that come to you will be appreciated. ... Ed
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Author: fskelley
Date: 2014-05-28 07:41
It's 11:32 PM, and right now I'd probably get out my clarinet and work a bit more with my new box of FOF reeds in my home office, except...
1) I'm in a VERY quiet FL neighborhood right behind Disney, houses are fairly close together, and I'm only 90% certain I wouldn't bother neighbors. Disney fireworks boom boom boom are strangely a natural part of our late night soundscape.
2) Even more problematic, I've got a 3 yr old granddaughter asleep 2 rooms down, and I know the sound carries quite well inside the house. I tried to convince dear daughter (her mom) to let her go to sleep every night from birth with clarinet blaring, but that didn't fly. Whose house it is isn't a factor in the equation, apparently. Sigh.
I have considered the soundproofing options and come up pretty much empty, practically speaking. At least I do have large chunks of available practice times, just not always when I would choose them.
Stan in Orlando
EWI 4000S with modifications
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Author: Bubalooy
Date: 2014-05-29 01:51
I had a similar problem. I think many of the suggestions here will not help you. Egg cartons don't work. There is a difference between sound absorbing materials and sound blocking. I you don't want the sound to leave the room, you need sound blocking. This means you need dense materials on the walls, floors, ceiling and door. A really good door is almost certain to help. Hollow core doors block almost no sound. I had great success just changing to a high quality sound proof door. Air ducts are another problem. Think of the room as being full of water. Where would the water go? That's where the sound goes. Covering air ducts with a sound blocking material, such as dry wall, will help. In the worst case, you'll have to build a room within a room. Dry wall is a good sound blocker, but it may be loud in the room. For that, you need sound absorbing material such as cellulose, or foam. These convert the energy of the sound into heat., However, they won't do a lot in terms of stopping sound from leaving the room. They do, however reduce echo.
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