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Author: msmusicalme
Date: 2012-06-29 21:38
Hello everyone. :-)
Being a senior in high school and looking to be a music performance major, I am starting to stray away (not entirely of course) from excerpt books and starting to collect actual orchestral parts. Obviously it is nearly impossible to collect every good clarinet part. So here is my question. What do you recommend as the "most important" clarinet parts to have? So far I have Scheherazade, Daphnis et Chloe, Capriccio Espagnol, and Schuberts Unfinished. I know that Peter and the Wolf is important but I am having a hard time finding it! Suggestions would be much appreciated! Thanks. :-)
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Author: JHowell
Date: 2012-06-29 23:05
Have a look at the Orchestral Musician's CD-ROM Library -- Van Cott Information Services has them. Very economical way to get lots of parts. IMSLP has many public domain parts that you can download for free. If you want to focus your efforts, search online for audition lists, and get those parts. You'll notice that the same works tend to show up over and over. Some important works are rental only, but sooner or later you have the chance to play or borrow almost everything.
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Author: pewd
Date: 2012-06-29 23:27
The most important one is the one you're playing at the moment.
2nd the Orchestral Musicians CD library; or if you prefer printed parts,
'Alfred's Complete Orchestral Parts' is another good source.
- Paul Dods
Dallas, Texas
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Author: Bob Barnhart ★2017
Date: 2012-06-29 23:48
You should get a copy of "The Working Clarinetist -- Master Classes with Peter Hadcock" (Roncorp Publications). Mr. Hadcock was the Associate Principal / Eb clarinet with the Boston Symphony for many years and has provided us an invaluable tutorial on almost every major orchestral work you'll likely face in a audition. It even has Peter and the Wolf!
Good luck!
Bob Barnhart
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Author: msmusicalme
Date: 2012-06-30 01:23
Bob Barnhart I have definitely looked into getting that one and probably will end up buying very soon. I've heard from allot of people recently that it is great!
camyllacarvalho thank you for the suggestions. :-)
JHowell and pewd thank you both for your input. I am already aware of several great places to get the music. I guess it is just hard to start collecting since there is SO much wonderful music out there. That is kind of why I asked for specific pieces to kind of start me off. But I do think I have several really great ones already. Again, thank you for your answers.
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2012-06-30 02:31
100% of clarinet auditions call for the Midsummer Night's Dream scherzo and the Beethoven 6th solos from movements 1 and 2.
The little fast tonguing solo in the finale of the Beethoven 4th is frequently called for.
The Beethoven 8th not so much, because it's a trio for two horns and clarinet that doesn't make sense when you play it alone. See http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=20&i=768&t=768. For the high G at the end, play the B and add the top trill key or the two top ones. (This is from Av Galper.)
If the audition is for a professional-level position, you'll be asked for the infamous Daphnis and Chloe noodling.
Don't depend on the McGinnis excerpt books, which have many mistakes. Anthony Gigliotti said that audition committees know about the mistakes and ding you if you play them. It's essential to learn the audition passages from the full clarinet part, and, preferably, the full score, so that you know what else is happening.
By all means get The Orchestral Musician's CD-ROM Library http://www.vcisinc.com/omcdrom.htm, which has the full parts for nearly everything except the Shostakovich Symphonies, which are still under copyright. Many Shostakovich solos appear on on-line audition excerpts. I've been collecting them, but they're not quite ready for prime time.
Ken Shaw
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Author: luca1
Date: 2012-06-30 02:57
Lee Morgan- at www.playwithapro.com - 12 Orchestral Studies- Absolute GOLD for learning these important clarinet solo parts.
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Author: msmusicalme
Date: 2012-06-30 03:22
Thank you! Exactly the type of answer I was looking for. One question about the CD rom library. Are the editions good? Are there as many errors as an excerpt book?
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Author: JHowell
Date: 2012-06-30 03:39
The CD-ROM parts are quite good. Sometimes they turn out a bit small when printed on 8.5X11 paper, but that shouldn't be a problem for young eyes.
OK, other specific audition parts. In addition to the above:
Pines of Rome
Shostakovich 9
Brahms 3 and 4
Mendelssohn 3 and 4
Ginastera Variaciones Concertantes
Sibelieus 1
Saint-Saens 3 (articulation)
Dances of Galanta
Firebird (both variation and infernal dance)
Rachmaninoff 2
Symphonie Fantastique
Bartered Bride Overture
Don Juan
Off the top of my head -- there are others, of course, but just watch for audition lists.
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Author: MrJozzerBeast
Date: 2012-06-30 08:56
A good book which I have used for exams is woodwind world, clarinet orchestral extracts. It has peter and the wolf. It also has a lot of major symphonies and other famous works by the big composers.
An important orchestral piece for clarinet is Prince Igor by Borodin (I think...)
I will find out some others and message back.
Jack
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Author: MrJozzerBeast
Date: 2012-06-30 09:10
A list of good audition parts:
Beethoven pastoral symphony no 6
Rossini 'la cenerentola' overture
Berlioz the Trojans
Mendelssohn midsummer nights dream and fingals cave overture
Wagner Tannhauser overture
Brahms Symphony no 3 (difficult change from Bb to A)
Delibes Coppelia
Borodin Prince Igor
Tchaikovsky- all the ballet music!!
Glazounow- seasons
Debbusy-prelude (a l'apres-midi d'un faune)
Bartok- miraculous mandarin
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Author: Bob Bernardo
Date: 2012-06-30 09:32
JHowell has a good list. Just read MrJozzerBeast, also a nice list.
a few others that I've seen pop up
Palovstion Dances - did I spell that right?
Beethovens 9th, the 3rd movement, but be ready for all of the movements
Brahms 3rd, the slow movement - very hard, almost always asked.
Rite of Spring
Flight of the Bumble Bee - fun to play
All of these should prepare you during college and beyond.
For a college audition have a concerto mastered and all of the scales and 3rds. major and the 2 minors. Be able to articulate, slur 2 tongue 2, and tonguing all of them. The easier scales around 128 on the metronome (tonguing) 4/4 time and 3/4 for triplets.
Practice long tones, starting at ppp and hitting fff, then back down to ppp. Around 30 to 40 seconds per note. Teachers are looking for your consistant sound quality. Many years ago this was asked at Cleveland, Eastman, and Peabody auditions. Also the Air Force Band in DC.
You will need to sight read so if you know most of the above orchestra works listed, you should be somewhat safe. They don't have to be perfect because mistakes often happen when sight reading.
For college auditions I don't think you need to know the really hard pieces, (Daphnis et Chloe,) but for your Masters degree these hard pieces are a must.
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Author: msmusicalme
Date: 2012-06-30 18:01
JHowell, MrJozzerBeast and Bob Bernardo
Thank you for the lists! Exactly what I was looking for. :-) And thanks to Bob Bernardo for all of the extra advice. Everyone's input is much appreciated. I am definitely looking forward to preparing for college auditions this year. I'm sure I will be back here before then. I enjoy these boards!
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Author: Nessie1
Date: 2012-07-02 12:08
Nobody has mentioned Kodaly Dances of Galanta yet which comes up quite
a bit.
Another idea for getting hold of parts is that if you look on certain websites such as musical chairs where vacancies are advertised some orchestras have links to their website where they have posted the parts for download.
Good luck.
Vanessa .
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Author: DavidBlumberg
Date: 2012-07-02 16:40
Yes, the Lee Morgan Playwithapro stuff is great!
I gave a copy of it to all of my advanced students at the Festival - they loved it.
And yes, of course I got permission from the Company first. Would be suicide not to.
http://www.SkypeClarinetLessons.com
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Author: Simon Aldrich
Date: 2012-07-04 15:11
Vanessa mentioned links to orchestras' websites that post audition repertoire.
The following link is a page on the Quebec Symphony's website, offering 40 pages of 1st, 2nd and bass excerpts for their upcoming audition for 2nd/bass clarinet.
http://www.osq.org/en/about/
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Author: davyd
Date: 2012-07-05 01:42
I agree with Pewd; the most important part is the one you're currently playing, whether a profound symphonic work or a disposable pop medley.
Some pieces not yet specifically mentioned that IMHO are worth a look:
Mozart: symphonies 39 and 40, piano concerto 23
Still: Afro-American symphony
Rachmaninoff: 2nd piano concerto
Tchaikovsky: Mozartiana, Romeo & Juliet, Capriccio italien
Gershwin: Rhapsody in blue, Cuban overture, American in Paris
Beethoven: piano concertos 1 and 3
Verdi: Forza Del Destino overture
Haydn: symphonies 99 and 100
Bizet: Symphony in C
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Author: msmusicalme
Date: 2012-07-17 18:10
This is awesome! Thanks. :-) And thanks to everyone else who has replied! I love all the feedback.
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