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 Vandoren Masters Collection
Author: jazztastic16 
Date:   2012-07-04 17:15

So I'm looking into upgrading my mouthpiece really soon and was thinking about trying the new Vandoren Masters Collection mouthpiece. Has anyone tried it and have any feedback? Of course this isn't all I'm looking into... there are multiple fobes I would like to try too, but I've always played a Vandoren and never have had complaints about their work. I'mm open to other suggestions too :)

Thanks!!!

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 Re: Vandoren Masters Collection
Author: sonicbang 
Date:   2012-07-04 21:11

I have very good experiences with Richard Hawkins's Brad Behn's and Vytas Krass's work. It depends on your taste.

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 Re: Vandoren Masters Collection
Author: SamuelChan 
Date:   2012-07-04 23:22

You mean the CL4 and CL5? They are quite wonderful, but tht's only for me, the downside however I feel I cannot attack the higher notes cleanly. I don't know about other owners but the articulation on a normal Vandoren mthpc is much easier.

Also, you have to compensate for the tuning. It's quite high.

Other than that, they're wonderful after careful selection!

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 Re: Vandoren Masters Collection
Author: Ed 
Date:   2012-07-05 00:47

There have been a couple of discussions previously that may interest you

http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=355853&t=355845

http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=346963&t=346235

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 Re: Vandoren Masters Collection
Author: jazztastic16 
Date:   2012-07-05 01:51

Thank you, that helps a lot :)

any feedback about various types of fobes mouthpieces? I was looking into the CWF, San Francisco, and Europa...

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 Re: Vandoren Masters Collection
Author: Ed 
Date:   2012-07-05 02:29

Clark makes great mouthpieces. Not knowing what you currently play, it would be a little hard to know what might fit you the best.

The CWF is really nice. The CF+, works best for me. Clark is really good about responding to emails or answering calls. You might call him to discuss your needs and tastes and he can steer you in the right direction.

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 Re: Vandoren Masters Collection
Author: jazztastic16 
Date:   2012-07-05 02:32

oh! I play a Vandoren B45 dot right now.

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 Re: Vandoren Masters Collection
Author: Maestro_6 
Date:   2012-07-05 05:58

Moving to the Fobes mouthpieces might be an immense transition coming from a Vandoren B45. The mouthpieces by Fobes are incredibly free-blowing, and in my opinion, tend to lack control ("good" resistance). I find this especially so in the CWF mouthpiece. However, one of the best options to choose coming from a B45 dot would be the Vandoren M30. Most people get along very well with this model, and it just does good things! But don't take my word for it... Try before you buy!

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 Re: Vandoren Masters Collection
Author: Ed 
Date:   2012-07-05 11:58

I would disagree with the above statement. I have found that Fobes mouthpieces are responsive and have an excellent working resistance. It can easily be tailored with a different reed if one wants a different feel as they are very reed friendly.

There are those who like a more resistant feel or who like to "blow against" the mouthpiece. I prefer a more responsive set up that allows me a wider range of flexibility and colors. For me, I find it allows me more flexibility and nuance.

There are lots of mouthpieces out there and lots of different tastes. The only way to know what works for you is to play a number of things and find what you like.

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 Re: Vandoren Masters Collection
Author: Ken Shaw 2017
Date:   2012-07-05 15:24

Vandoren mouthpieces are machine-made, with at best only a tiny amount of hand tweaking. Many excellent professionals play them, but you can be sure that the players took them to specialists for final adjustment by hand.

If you can afford it, I recommend that you go to a professional maker such as Clark Fobes, Walter Grabner, Greg Smith and many others.

Ken Shaw

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 Re: Vandoren Masters Collection
Author: Buster 
Date:   2012-07-05 19:29

Ken Shaw wrote:

> Vandoren mouthpieces are machine-made, with at best only a tiny
> amount of hand tweaking. Many excellent professionals play
> them, but you can be sure that the players took them to
> specialists for final adjustment by hand.


Actually, many simply go through a large quantity of mouthpieces to find the few that are gems.

A friend, upon winning a quite "sizable" job on an M13 Lyre, told Vandoren he wanted a better one... They quite happily handed him a small suitcase holding some 150 or so M13 Lyre's.

-Jason

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 Re: Vandoren Masters Collection
Author: Maestro_6 
Date:   2012-07-06 00:45

To each his own... That is why we all must try many different kinds. Nevertheless, I enjoy playing on Vandoren Mouthpieces. I do adapt mine just a bit to fit my style of playing. I use the Vandoren M15 13 Series. Just go out and try!

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